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Re: [CQ-Contest] Your Call?

To: Scott Ellington <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Your Call?
From: Martin Durham <W1md@W1md.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 19:10:52 +0000
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Marty
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> On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Scott Ellington <k9ma@sdellington.us> wrote:
> 
> So what is the proper way to politely decline to QSY?  Something which means, 
> "Sorry, I do not wish to QSY now, and please let's not argue about it."  I 
> often send "SRI", but I'm not sure it get's the message across.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott  K9MA
> 
>> On 2/26/2016 14:20, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>>  Steve,
>> 
>> 
>> I can't speak for any other little pistol or squirt gun out there, but over 
>> the years I've learned a bit of a distaste when someone asks me to QSY to 
>> another band.
>> 
>> 
>> I've had the request made on one of those rare times I have a run frequency 
>> going.  If I've got people calling me, I'm not leaving.  Worse, I've had 
>> people ask this, I would go and work the other band (and I don't always have 
>> propagation at the time), and on my return find that the station that asked 
>> me "as a courtesy" was now working my run frequency as his.
>>  When I'm doing S&P, again, I may not have propagation to that part of the 
>> world on the other band at that time.  And I may have other reasons for not 
>> wanting to QSY at that time.
>> 
>> 
>> But the biggest reason I've come to dislike the requests... when (and this 
>> happens primarily on voice modes) I'm asked and I decline, the other guy 
>> starts giving me an argument.  I'm in the middle of a run, I have a 
>> half-dozen people calling, and someone wants me to stop cold and discuss why 
>> I want to stay put, or don't want to go to another band right then and there?
>> 
>> 
>> Now, I don't mind if, while doing S&P, the op of a M/2 or M/M tells me that 
>> their other station is on, well, whatever frequency.  Especially during the 
>> Sunday "doldrums".  As long as they simply mention it.  Again, though, when 
>> the other op demands to know why not... I mean, really.  It's not like a W3 
>> from PA is exactly rare, and I get that they'd like to maximize the number 
>> of Q's on each band.
>> 
>> 
>> So please don't take it personally if I don't QSY to another band.
>> 
>> 
>> 73, ron w3wn
>> 
>> On 02/26/16, sbloom@acsalaska.net wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure changing the exchange is realistic (though man that *IS* a
>> great idea) ...but I will comment that I find it increasingly difficult
>> to communicate *anything* other than the contest exchange with most
>> folks. I always try to get guys late in the contest ..if/when things
>> are slow ..to QSY to other bands ..and I'm probably down to 1 or 2 in
>> 10 ...giving me any answer at all ..yes or no ...no matter how much I
>> QRS. Probably not much that can be done ..as code readers become more
>> popular ..but it does suck.
>>  73
>> Steve KL7SB
>>  
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:09:21 -0500, Jeff Clarke wrote:
>> 
>>  A simple solution. Make the callsign part of the exchange like
>> SS. For example if I work P40W he would send KU8E P40W 5NN 5.
>> 
>> There were several stations this past weekend in ARRL DX that wouldn't
>> even send their call until they weren't being called by anyone anymore.
>> Some others would work between 5-10 stations before they sent their
>> call.
>> 
>> I blame alot of this problem on the dumbing down of DX contesting (and
>> DXing in general) caused by packet spotting. Most casual DX contesters
>> like SOA and just click on packet spots and work people. No skill
>> needed anymore to copy a call or have any knowledge about propagation
>> to know which band to be on to maximize your score. To me it's similar
>> to catching fish in a barrel. Those on the other end of the pileup know
>> this and this is why they don't ID frequently. It's very frustrating
>> for those who still like to be unassisted.
>> 
>> It's obvious to me that many of these people also can't copy CW other
>> then their own call. I had a situation on 15 CW Sunday morning in ARRL
>> CW that I had a bunch of dupes that started calling me. Someone had
>> probably spotted my call wrong. It was amazing to me that many of those
>> that called were well known contest calls. They still called even
>> though I was sending my call every QSO. I checked the spots of my
>> callsign after the contest and that's exactly what happened. It wasn't
>> until someone spotted me with the comment "call correction" that the
>> dupes stopped.
>> 
>> BTW, I'm not against SOA. I guess I'm just old fashioned because it's
>> just not challenging to me. I like to find stations and band openings
>> on my own. That's more thrilling to me. To each his own. If you get a
>> thrill from clicking on spots all weekend long, more power to you.
>> 
>> Kudos to guys like K3WW and AA3B who have good stations, are great run
>> operators and they know how to interleave spots between their runs to
>> maximize their score.
>> 
>> Jeff KU8E
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> Scott Ellington  K9MA
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> 
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