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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 07:16:39 -0500 (CDT)
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 Sorry Luis, I do not support Rag's position.


The scoreboard is directly based on spotting information.  Therefore, 
information derived from it is (IMHO) assistance for the purposes of most 
contests that recognize this category.


While the use of this scoreboard & related tool is certainly fascinating, and 
can prove most interesting if used properly... it is still assistance.


And frankly, it troubles me on several levels that such efforts seem to be put 
into attempts to add technological assistance to those who are (allegedly) 
operating in categories or sub-categories of these contests, all to give them 
an "edge" over their peers in the same category, that may be on the wrong side 
of the line.  It makes me wonder if this is "pushing the envelope" or trying to 
justify less than ethical behavior.  
 
Which is another debate for another time and another thread.


Suffice to say, I strongly suspect that if a contest sponsor or contest 
committee feels the same way, this will result in this type of thing also being 
part of that contest's definition of "assistance" or an "assisted" category.  
Time will tell.


73, ron w3wn

On 04/04/16, Fco. Luis Delgadillo wrote:

I totally support Rag's position .

It is innovative, and the scoreboards add another layer of emotion.

73

Luis XE2B

Enviado desde mi Huawei de Telcel


-------- Mensaje original --------
Asunto: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
De: K3RAG LB3RE Brobakken
Para: Ron Notarius W3WN
CC: k5zd@arrl.org," oe1ems@emssolutions.at" ," cq-contest@contesting.com "



Hello.
During SAC we had nordic battle many years.
We used scoreboard as a challenge to see the race between all of us.
Even contest committee member agreed
Even Top contester OH6KZP kim developed this cool tooling for lifting SAC to 
new level.
Two important things...

1. No vfo/ frequency available
2. No spotting info where they beam or who give info.
Braco could used contest planning out from public logs given out from CQ 
WPX.....
Its nothing more info given than public logs which also tell when/which band 
are used....
Does it become different if its on a web scoreboard to give more fun, than a 
old log converted to excel sheet.
Come on guys, i know its hard to let "young" and new hams develope new stuff in 
contesting...
We made it Scandinavian Activity Contest to gain more activity, why not in 
WPX?????
Just my two cent, better focus on recuits to keep contest alive
73 LB3RE Rag
Hello to everyone,
i would like to hear opinion of community
Does use (wathching or watching and posting) of www.cqcontest .net web site
made single operator as assisted or not?
Since I have be warned in last WPX that monitoring competitors and their
band changes (without knowing their freq and spotter)
could be assisted, because it can give me idea which bands are open, I
wonder my self is it same with this WEB Site providing same info,
watching to it, its possible to find out on which band are people generating
QSOs!
How?
73s
Braco
E77DX
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