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Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)

To: Bob Kupps <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:30:22 -0600
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I generally agree with the idea of not post-massaging when it's to find errors 
not noted during the contest. 

But if I'm in a spirited run, notice a typo and do a CTRL-N to leave myself a 
note, my take is such a corrective note is fine to act upon after the contest. 
My take is the note is part of the log and was recorded during the contest 
period. 

I do, however, think there's a massive gulf, ethically, between changing N44OGW 
to N4OGW and going, "Hmm, I see I logged him as in MI. I should check qth.com 
to make sure Tor's not in MS."

In the first instance, it's safe to say you got it right and merely typed it 
wrong. In the second, S is far enough away from I it's safe to say you got it 
wrong and deserve the bust. 

If, in the days of paper logging, you felt fine with reviewing your log — which 
you had to do anyway for the dupesheet — to see that squiggly tilde-like 
scratch you wrote down looks more like an N or that "[" looks more like a C, or 
that ")" looks like a 7, is there really a problem with doing the same in the 
computer era? In both cases, are you not just clarifying what you intended to 
log?

If it wasn't a penmanship contest then, why is it a typing contest now?

73, kelly, ve4xt 




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> On Nov 9, 2016, at 20:01, Bob Kupps via CQ-Contest 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> lol we send in our contest log without looking and to LOTW after the entry 
> period ends. That's when I learned that I had forgotten to press 'enter' or 
> something before moving to another band to work ZD8W and it got logged as a 
> crossband QSO. And there will be other mistakes, especially with new ops, but 
> accurate real-time logging is an integral part of the sport IMO too Art.73 
> Bob HS0ZIA
> 
>      From: Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com>
> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:59 AM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)
> 
> We all agree that we're not allowed to manipulate the log after the
> Contest... "except for obvious typos," some say.  I've always disagreed
> with that -- part of the job is to get the received info correctly into the
> log.
> 
> Just to show that I actually hold by this, I just sent in my SS CW log.  To
> relive the fun of the contest, I reviewed the Cabrillo log.  (Oh, how I
> miss the info-laden paper logs, with each multiplier marked and with the
> scratch-out corrections as visual reminders of the details of each QSO.)
> 
> In the Cabrillo log I noticed that one QSO with a QRP station shows
> received NR 3316.  Well, sometimes I bang on the keyboard too hard and I
> get an accidental double character.  "Obviously," that's a typo I could
> correct to NR 316.  But I didn't.  One busted QSO.
> 
> In another QSO, I noticed that I logged N44LF.  Gee, I don't remember
> working any N44's, but I do remember that N4LF was all over the place.
> "Obviously," another accidental double character from hitting the keyboard
> too hard.  And I didn't correct this one, either.  That's a busted QSO and
> a penalty for busted call sign.
> 
> So, my score will suffer a little. Every year my bad typing costs me points
> (and this year I used a new keyboard with unfamiliar software -- double
> trouble).  But I feel good about my attitude and my behavior.
> 
> And I hope I'll act the same if I'm ever in first place (fat chance) by a
> couple of QSOs.  Quoting my son, again: "If you don't use your conscience
> regularly, it won't work when you need it."
> 
> Learning that, and applying it, is one of the values of contesting.
> 
> 73, Art K3KU
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