Re: [CQ-Contest] Packet killed single Op

[W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>]

Bingo.

I was SOA medium power...500 watts HI!   If I am not going to be 
competitive I like to be able to leave the shack come in and see what is 
new or what I might need for awards.
There is a skill to spot clicking.  Be on the East coast for most of 
it!  Have lots of gain and know where to call.  Being in Colorado we get 
the short end from both coasts.  I usually will have to wait a few 
minutes to allow the big gun multis to work the dx and move on.  Rarely 
was I unable to not work the DX at some point.  A few rarer Zone/Mult 
stations I did not bother with.
W0MU


On 11/29/2016 8:13 PM, Ed K1EP wrote:
> But not everyone on assisted (packet) is out to win. And not everyone on
> assisted (packet) has SO2R.   I think that there are far more of those out
> there.
>
> On Nov 29, 2016 7:37 PM, "Jeff AC0C" <keepwalking188@ac0c.com> wrote:
>
> You are right.  Point and click.  Going through the steps is simple.
>
> But you are wrong in that winning in the assisted format is a different
> story.  The other guy can go the the basic steps just as well as you can.
> And he may have the same telnet feed info as you.  So differences in
> execution, band selection and timing are the details where the devil
> resides.
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> www.ac0c.com
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Radio K0HB
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:33 AM
> To: CQ-Contest ; Jukka Klemola
>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Packet killed single Op
>
> I've tried it.
>
> Point.
>
> Click.
>
> Fie Nigh Foe.
>
> Difficult indeed.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 08:56 Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Assisted is easy only to such guys who have not tried assisted.
> > Assisted is much more difficult than classic.
> > Very Much.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Jukka OH6LI
> >
> > 2016-11-29 3:13 GMT+02:00 Bill via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>:
> >
> > > Assisted is not that easy for a competitive station.  While  you are
> > > running on 14.030,  you must time your CQs and replies to guys  calling
> > > you to the
> > > guy who's CQing on 21025.  You have to time your calls  to the station >
> > on
> > > 21025, make the Q and send the exchange very quickly so you  don't loose
> > > your
> > > run freq.  it can be a challenge, even for big  stations.  It's true for
> > CW
> > > and SSB and just about all  contests.
> > >
> > > Bill K4XS/KH7XS
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/29/2016 12:37:16 A.M. Coordinated Universal Ti,
> > > artboyars@gmail.com writes:
> > >
> > > I've  complained here repeatedly (ad nauseam, you might say) about how
> > > "assisted"  has changed single op.  This year in SS, both CW and SSB,  I
> > > experienced it clearly.  Several times I would find a nice juicy
> > > multiplier
> > > early in his operation, and I'd jump into the pile with my  little
> > signal.
> > > If I got beaten more than twice, it was all over. The "spot"  would go
> > out,
> > > all the HP point-and-clickers would jump in, and the pileup  would >
> > become
> > > unmanageable. (A couple of times the rare mult CQer did hang  in long
> > > enough
> > > for me to come back 20 or 30 minutes later and make a  QSO.)
> > >
> > > The same effect happens with "new" non-mult QSOs, but I guess I  don't
> > > notice so much when I get packet-ed out of my umpteenth OH or SCV as
> > when
> > > I
> > > miss the NL or SB or EWA that I found giving out number  4.
> > >
> > > Now, maybe you find "assisted" more fun than classic single op.  That's
> > OK,
> > > and having that category reported in the Results is OK,  too.  But >
> > PLEASE
> > > don't think that the two categories should be  merged.  I do not know
> > what
> > > special skills are needed for "assisted",  but they sure are nothing >
> > like
> > > the skills I developed for single op,  especially Little Pistol. >
> > (Having
> > > the loudest signal in the pileup  may be a worthy achievement, but I
> > would
> > > not call it an operating  skill.)
> > >
> > > 73, Art  K3KU
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