On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:07 Helmut Mueller <helmut@photo42.de> wrote:
Hi Guys.
These "new" techniques are just the evolution of contest, deal with it!
There are different contests out there who have different rules and smart
people REALLY understand the rules and apply every effort that is allowed
by the rules! This is called contesting art or INOVATION!
You want to make all contests the same? Keep whining!
Centurys ago someone came up with stacked antennas: I bet there were
people moaning about this.
Centurys ago someone came up with computer logging and keying: I bet
there
were people moaning about this.
Centurys ago someone came up with SO2R: People were moaning about this.
There are many more examples like this ... now we have SO2RUN or
Interleave QSOs!
I call this innovation! It is fantastic!
This is from the PJ2T website:
Dedicated to fun, international friendship, and advancement of the
contesting art through superior operating technique and maximum
application
of technology
Could not say it any better!
73
Helmut DF7ZS
df7zs.de
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Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von
W0MU Mike Fatchett
Gesendet: Wednesday, 15 March, 2017 04:50 AM
An: cq-contest@contesting.com
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] Prohibiting Interleaved CQs on Two or More
Frequencies in the Same Band
If you agree that the rules need to be changed, you need to make your
ARRL Division Directors aware of your feelings. I believe there is a
meeting coming up soon and I believe that this item can be taken up at
that
time.
Alternating CQ's on different bands is pretty common on RTTY. I think
that this practice should be allowed and monitored to make sure that
stations are adhering to the one transmitted signal at a time for Single
ops.
I can only image the situation where we have a wall of stations at
14.150 going up and 14.347 going down for alternating cq's. Add in EU and
the Caribbean and we have a big mess.
W0MU
On 3/14/2017 5:08 PM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
I strongly support Frank's proposal, but the prohibition should apply to
Single Ops, too, as it does in CQ WW.
I realize that multi-op stations are more likely to be equipped to do
alternating CQs on the same band (A and B radios with two ops on each
band,
multiple antennas per band with good isolation), but it certainly can be
done in an SO2R station. If only one band is open enough to run, then the
impact on the spectrum is the same.
Is there a compelling reason to allow Single Ops to do alternating CQs
on the same band?
Actually, I think a case could be made for banning alternating CQs
altogether. I'd regret that because I've sometimes used it as a Single Op
to boost rate or fight boredom, but it definitely does use up more
spectrum. If only two bands are open in a big contest, that spectrum is
likely to be very limited. What if a rare mult running low power can't
find
a place to CQ because the alternating CQers are taking up more than their
share of space? What about the impact on non-contesters?
73. Dick WC1M
-----Original Message-----
From: donovanf@starpower.net [mailto:donovanf@starpower.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:01 PM
To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Prohibiting Interleaved CQs on Two or More
Frequencies in the Same Band
I recommend that alternating CQs on two or more frequencies on the same
band be prohibited immediately in all ARRL HF contests, exactly as it is
now prohibited in all CQ WW DX Contests and for multi-operators in the
IARU
HF Championship.
The reason for my recommendation is that the recent success of the
PJ4G team in CQing on alternate frequencies on the same band (both on
20 and 15 meters) in the recent ARRL SSB DX Contest will inevitably be
applied -- very soon -- by other multi-operator competitors in future
ARRL contests. Unfortunately this will be to the very considerable
detriment of other HF spectrum users
-- both contesters and non-contesters -- because of the very limited
available spectrum on every HF band below 28 MHz.
The obvious course of action is to simply apply existing IARU HF
Championship rule 4.3.2.1 to all multi-operator categories in all ARRL HF
contests.
4.3.2.1. Alternating CQs on two or more frequencies on the same band is
not permitted.
http://www.arrl.org/iaru-hf-championship
A CAC sub-committee is currently engaged in a Rules Consolidation
Project to consolidate “The General Rules of all ARRL Contests”
“The General Rules for all ARRL contests Below 30 MHz” and individual
contest rules into a single rule set for each of the ARRL HF Contests.
In addition to the consolidation of the rules structure, the ARRL
Programs and Services Committee (PSC) asked the team to develop any
accompanying commentary they choose as to areas where the perceive that
the
rules might benefit from revision and, where appropriate, to suggest
revised language.
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2016/J
uly/Doc_24_0716.pdf
While the CAC's role is solely to respond to projects and issues
assigned by the ARRL Programs and Services Committee; the CAC chairman
can
recommend future CAC projects and issues to the PSC.
73
Frank
W3LPL
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