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Re: [CQ-Contest] KU1CW location

To: "'Ria Jairam'" <rjairam@gmail.com>, <W4AAW@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] KU1CW location
From: <w5ov@w5ov.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 08:07:23 -0400
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N2RJ said:

" Just be careful that you are indeed doing so. CEPT T/R 61-01 is not
sufficient authorization for a European licensee to operate an internet
remote base in the US while being physically present overseas...."

EU rules do not apply to amateur radio transmissions made from within the
USA under any circunstances.

Where the operator is located is completely irrelevant.

What happens on the air from a USA station is governed by US FCC Law -
nothing else.

US Law applies and the operators must comply with FCC rules as if they were
physically within the USA.

73,

Bob W5OV



-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ria
Jairam
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 5:53 PM
To: W4AAW@aol.com
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] KU1CW location

> W1VE and other serious operators of remote-capable stations will agree 
> with me:  We remote-capable stations are not trying to fool anyone or 
> gain some sort of geographical or unfair advantage.  We're just being
competitive and striving to do so strictly within the rules.


There is really nothing wrong with trying to gain an advantage during a
contest. That's what contesting is. As long as it is within the rules.
Operating from elsewhere to do better in contests has been a staple of
contesting for pretty much as long as it has existed.

>2. Alex is a member of TeamW4AAW, which operates the first Totally Remote
M/M station.
>We have 31 team members who operate W4AAW's positions from all over NA, 
>from Panama,  Europe and Asia, provided they meet legal/licensing
requirements.

Just be careful that you are indeed doing so. CEPT T/R 61-01 is not
sufficient authorization for a European licensee to operate an internet
remote base in the US while being physically present overseas. Even if they
were allowed, their home license restrictions and power limits (while not
exceeding US Extra) apply. In the UK it is
400 watts for full licenses and in Germany it is 750W for class A licenses.
Other European countries may be different. The best thing for them to do to
be compliant with the laws of the US is to get a US license. There are VE
sessions in many countries overseas and one can get a license by passing the
(now very easy) exams. No code required, even.

>4.  The 3830 comments for KU1CW @ W4AAW in the CQWPX CW test very 
>clearly show the  locations of each operator.

An awards chaser who isn't competing in the contest is unlikely to know
about nor care about 3830. The best thing to do would be to put the location
of the stations in the QRZ profile, which is the first place they look.

73
Ria, N2RJ


On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 4:30 PM, W4AAW@aol.com via CQ-Contest
<cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> Here is the correct information on KU1CW in the CQWPX CW contest.
>
> 1. Alex has just moved to Washington State.  He has not yet modified his
license to reflect this recent development.
>
> 2. Alex is a member of TeamW4AAW, which operates the first Totally Remote
M/M station.  We have 31 team members who operate W4AAW's positions from all
over NA, from Panama, Europe and Asia, provided they meet legal/licensing
requirements.
>
> 3. Since a W4 call sign is common in WPX tests, I suggested to Alex we use
KU1CW for the contest.  Alex agreed. So, the entry (as shown on 3830) was
KU1CW@ W4AAW.
>
> 4.  The 3830 comments for KU1CW @ W4AAW in the CQWPX CW test very clearly
show the locations of each operator.
>
> If some people had bothered to read information that is readily available
in that posting, it would not have been necessary to cast aspersions.
>
> During some periods of the contest, Alex even operated SO2R, using two
W4AAW positions remotely, from Washington State.
>
> W1VE and other serious operators of remote-capable stations will agree
with me:  We remote-capable stations are not trying to fool anyone or gain
some sort of geographical or unfair advantage.  We're just being competitive
and striving to do so strictly within the rules.
>
> Cheers!
>
> 73, Mike W4AAW
>
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