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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?

To: "'Jim George'" <n3bb@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?
From: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:34:25 -0400
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Hi Jim,
How are things in TX?

Everyone should have the option to select what category that most interests
them.
But I feel SO1R, SO2R, Assisted and Unassisted are four separate categories.
The ground rules are different - 1 rig vs. 2 and you finding the Q's vs.
someone or something else plastering them on the screen for you.

I like ARRL SSB SO1R Unassisted.   But that category does not exist anymore.
It is either Single Op Unassisted or Assisted. So, do I want to continue to
beat my head against the wall with these folks that are marvels at SO2R or
do Single Op Assisted even though I won't be operating assisted? I find I am
more in line with the competition in the Assisted category. 

73,
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim
George
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:39 AM
To: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>; Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?

Yeah Stan!

At the risk of stirring up the "assisted is the only way because it's more
modern" nest of hornets again, operating seriously in SOAB SO2R CW
Unassisted is the main reason I maintain my high level of interest in ham
radio, along with CW rag chewing. My radio set is in a guest house with no
Internet, and even if it had the service, I have no interest in contests
that combine the Internet and the radio. I may be a dying breed, but that's
the way I feel.

Jim N3BB

At 08:11 AM 7/31/2017 -0500, Stan Stockton wrote:
>Here we go again.
>
>The answer to your question has zero relevance on whether they should 
>be combined.
>
>Do the results show  being assisted is a detriment like QRP is a 
>detriment as compared to low power. If so, it's like me saying that QRP 
>scores don't beat low power scores so why not combine those categories.
>
>If anyone thinks that SO scores would not be as good if those top 
>operators used the internet to provide them a list of multipliers to 
>work, they have no clue.  If a survey was taken of those who operate SO 
>in serious fashion the result would be they don't want them combined.
>
>I have yet to see any logical reason to eliminate the category other 
>than it is difficult to enforce the rules.
>
>73... Stan, K5GO
>
>
>
>Sent from Stan's IPhone
>
>
>
> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > The Assisted category in the CQWW is 25 years old this year;
> >
> > It was created because of the advantages" given to operators who 
> > were
> using the spotter networks
> >
> > In all of the 25 years of assisted categories in the CQWW how many
> times has the world SOAB (Assisted) beaten the SOAB (Unassisted) ? - 
> It is a trick question
> >
> > Based on factual information is there any reason to not combine the
> categories ? before you answer look at the data...
> >
> >
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