Hi Mark,
Yeah a Table. It does show the rates, but not really as easily visually
as a actual Graph.
Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
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On 11/9/2017 8:55 AM, MARK BAILEY wrote:
Hi Joe:
My rates for the last several years are on 3830. This year's CW rates are at:
http://3830scores.com/showrumor.php?arg=kTaozUgyavqmT
73,
Mark, KD4D
On November 9, 2017 at 8:42 AM Joe <nss@mwt.net> wrote:
It seems the biggest complaint about SS is the Sunday Blahs.
I am curious, lets all put our logs where our mouths are.
I really did not get on this year till Sunday, so I really do not have a
Horse in this race. But I think it would be interesting to see visually
the various rates from all stations.
BIG GUN Stations, Medium stations, and the small. Like Me. 100 Watts and
a vertical. If you use N1MM+ You can easily make a rate chart. I'll show
ya mine if you show me yours! :-)
Heres Mine.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2ch9ibm.jpg
Lets see what the Sunday Blahs really look like.
Joe W9ET/WB9SBD
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On 11/8/2017 10:16 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
It all seems like the post-SS blues i’ve Seen on this reflector since the
inception of the reflector. SS is the oldest contest in ham radio, and
bellyaching about it, I believe, will do no good. As Ward says, pick a
rare section and go there. I’ve figured out how to do that without really
traveling, though it has its unique challenges. Figuring out how to make
SS fun is just another challenge. The club challenges are one good idea.
We could change the rules every year and there would always be complaints.
Maybe activity was down this year, but CW SS is still a pretty darn popular
contest, and has certainly passed the test of time. Like an old Canadian
TV commercial says “Those who like it, like it a lot.”
My frustration Sunday was I went to S&P after running finally became
counter productive, and while I was tuning for stations, the PR and VI
stations were doing the same as me..... oh well, that’s what makes SS
strategy interesting.
As a thrill-seeking run op, I love the quality of CW ops in SS. I can run
as fast as I want and pretty much everybody runs as a smooth machine.
IMHO, no reason to mess with this classic. It is a beauty.
Onward and forward to SS SSB (a different distraction) and CQWW CW.
73,
Gerry, VE1RM/W1VE
Representing NT from VY1AAA@VY1JA
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:32 PM Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
It sounds like the trade is a feeling of "even playing field" vs painfully
slow conditions for the stronger stations. 2 an hour for the big guns
while the smaller stations do 30 an hour and catch up. The ones catching
up don't want it to change and the ones enduring 2 an hour are saying "this
is getting to be too slow to endure".
Sounds to me like the solution is for the smaller pistols to get more of
their friends to join in on SS.
73
Ed N1UR
-----Original Message-----
From: Chet Moore [mailto:Chetmoore@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:29 PM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net; 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
I dont know about the new hams in the last 7 years but my love for SS goes
back to it being the only contest I could even compete in having only a
vertical, wires and low power for my first 5 years in ham radio and living
in an apartment. my interest was not scientific, it was simply the best I
could do at the time. I was outconus for most of that time, a conditional
licensee, and usually the only ham at the locations where I happened to be.
while i am a life member now, I was not a qst subscriber then. My first SS
operation came from trying to have a rag chew with a ss participant who
asked me if I was in the ss contest. I didn't know what a contest was. He
explained the exchange,(all done on cw) told me what my exchange should be
and except for some time in iraq and bahrain, I have never missed an ss
since. I'm not advocating for any changes but if they are made "CHAMPIONS
ADJUST !!"
73
Chet WA4KJR, WA4KJR/VO1,N6ZO, KL7AIZ, KG4ZO VQ9XX, ZD8W, KP4EAJ N6ZO/6y5
N6ZO/HH9
Chet N4FX
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Ed Sawyer
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:53 AM
To: 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
Hello Art. No offense intended. I believe that people getting involved
in SS in the past 10 years and considering it their favorite contest are a
rarity indeed. The submitted log numbers and complaints of dwindling
Sunday activity by the regulars would not be what they are if there were
noticeably more people like yourself.
I am glad you enjoy SS. I have no beef with it. I am also not
complaining about it. Just offering a possible explanation to the
complainers and suggesting that their complaint cannot be substantiated
across other HF contest activity data or experiences.
Ed N1UR
-----Original Message-----
From: Art Peters [mailto:k0acp@k0acp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:58 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net; CQ-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
Ed,
I have to take exception to your comment, I may be able to see old-Timer
from where I am, but have only been contesting with any sort of intensity
for the last 7-years. SS is one of, if not my favorite contest, partly due
to my station configuration, and partially it is the intricacy of attaining
all 83 sections, which while a lot of work, it is doable. So I’d have to
respectfully submit that the great thing about (Ham Radio / America) is
that everyone is entitled to their opinion...
73 es God Bless,
Art / K0ACP
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
SS has been an old timers contest for as long as I have been
contesting -
20+ years. Virtually no one coming into contesting in the last 2
20+ decades is
a gung ho SS competitor. The SS group is growing old or dieing off.
But don't compare that to most other contests. CQ WW SSB was amazing.
Rate meter spending LONG times above 200 and 300 peaks observed
numerous times during the weekend. 3000 - 4600 Qs logged by the top
10 US HP and 9000 Qs logged by 8P5A SOAB HP leader. CQ WW CW has been
no exception in the past to be as much if not more volume of Qs than the
SSB contest.
SS has a problem - that is not debatable. But SSB contesting and CW
contesting don't show signs of problems in most other contests. In
fact - until this last year of greatly diminishing sunspots - have
been on a decade long growth trend globally.
Its easy to fix the boredom of SS. But its not easy to do it and keep
it the same old SS. Choices need to be made.
73
Ed N1UR
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