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Re: [CQ-Contest] 30 M RTTY?

To: "Jeff Stai" <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com>, "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 30 M RTTY?
From: "Jeff" <keepwalking188@ac0c.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:05:12 -0600
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Jeff, agree with you.  I've never seen any RTTY contesting on WARC bands.

Yes, have seen DXpeditions running RTTY into big pileup on WARC bands.

Yes, have seen special event activities like W1AW/100 running RTTY into big pileups on WARC bands.

And as far as I know there are no CQ or ARRL or other sponsored contests suggesting WARC bands are acceptable. The entire DQ thing sound hard to believe simply because if there was a contest going on how do you exactly address the entire band of violating contesters to let them know they are going to be DQ. Not sure I follow the mechanics of that even if it were to happen.

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-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Stai
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:48 PM
To: Ron Notarius W3WN
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 30 M RTTY?

Back when during the ARRL 100th I operated 30m RTTY from both /6 and /7 and
it was definitely lit up like a contest or DXpedition, and this was
happening each week while the W1AW location moved to another state. Keeping
the pileup tight and also workable was a challenge, it was all too easy to
let it take over the band. It was also a lot of fun! 73 jeff wk6i

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
wrote:

Interesting item posted on the QRZ.COM forum this evening.  Now, I don't
believe it... but I have to ask anyway...

The allegation posted by this induhvidual is as follows, and I quote:

"Downside? Yes. When you wander off to a WARC band during a contest, hoping find some relief, they are sometimes already there. On two occasions in the
last two years I have headed to 30 meters, only to find it taken over by
RTTY contesters. They stayed at it last time until someone from CQ magazine showed up and told them that they were all disqualified for the CQ event if
they submitted 30m contacts in a contest. Hard to understand but true. If
you get into a contest, wouldn't you want to know the rules?

Other than that blatant black eye, I like contesters."

Incidentally, despite that last line, previous posts from this induhvidual
(I am deliberately not naming him at this time, if you know who it is,
please don't either) indicate that he is not exactly a fan of contests...
But I digress...

Like I said, I don't believe the allegation.  Regardless, I have to ask if
this rings a bell with anyone, did something even close to this allegation
actually happen in the last 2 years?

I mean, really?  Even if someone who wasn't a big-gun (or didn't care) was
operating "in the contest" on 30, someone from CQ Magazine shows up out of
the blue to chase them off?  That's so absurd on the face of it that it's
not even worth the paragraph to debunk it.

Personally, I think the real story is that his favorite frequency was
already in use by someone, possiblly a small Dxpedition or a semi-rare DX
station, said station was running "contest style", and as a result, he put
2
& 2 together... And came up with 22.

And yes, I've already called him out on it.  Well, won't be the first time
I
get called names.  (Amazing how some tellers of tall tales don't like it
when their tall tale is exposed as just that.)  But just in case there is
even a smidgen of truth to the tale... Which I doubt... I have to ask.

So, anyone ever hear of anything like this?  In recent memory, that is?

73, ron w3wn


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