Hi everyone:
Would it work to have the contest sponsors provide notice to entrants that they
must provide recordings BEFORE the contest begins? This doesn't address
checking an irregularity in the first year that it occurs but would allow
follow-on in future years. This could be done with other requirements (e.g.
observers, etc.) the sponsors want to impose.
Pre-registration and mandatory recordings seem like major impediments to the
casual operators that we rely on. I don't think having two classes of
competitors is a good path forward - tomorrow's serious competitors come from
today's "little pistols". IMHO, it also important to instill awareness of
contesting ethics in today's "little pistols".
I support the contest sponsors' efforts to identify and disqualify cheaters but
we need to balance requirements on participants against the value they provide
for detecting and deterring cheating.
73,
Mark, KD4D
> On January 30, 2018 at 10:32 PM Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com> wrote:
>
>
> The problem all this doesn’t address is the little pistol (there are many of
> us) who are just out to push themselves and improve their skills, but somehow
> manage to place very well.
> It actually happens all the time, you send in a log for a contest, then six
> months or a year later a certificate arrives saying you won! The big reason
> is a lack of other entries in the same category. If I were to be told I
> couldn’t be listed because I hadn’t planned ahead, canvassed all other
> contesters that might have been in the event, realized they weren’t going to
> participate and only then set up to record my activity, then I wouldn’t be
> happy either.
>
> I realize that the whole point is to reduce cheating, but please don’t, as a
> byproduct, eliminate those of us who just happen to be participating for our
> own very valid reasons (such as practice)…
>
> Jack, W6FB
>
> > On Jan 30, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here's an idea. Why not have a pre-registration process before the contest
> > that you are going to be a serious entry? Much like we register teams for
> > the NA Sprint and NAQP. Only entries that follow this process will be
> > eligible for plaques and certificates. If someone doesn't do this ( just
> > playing around??) their score can still be listed and not classified as an
> > administrative entry. For those that choose to follow this process state
> > the rules or conditions (i.e recording the contest) on the web page this
> > form is located on. This will eliminate any confusion anyone might have.
> >
> > I would even be willing to help CQ with the coding to implement this. I've
> > done similar stuff on my web pages for ku8e.com and the Georgia QSO Party.
> > You fill out a form, it stores that information in a mySQL database and
> > sends a confirmation email to the person who submitted the form.
> >
> > BTW I didn't know the story about MM0LID until I read this email thread.
> > Not only did it appear he cheated using a made up call sign but also
> > violated FCC rules. When something like this gets out it sure doesn't help
> > your reputation and it's going to raise red flags for a contest sponsor
> > every time you submit an entry.
> >
> > Jeff KU8E
> >
> > --
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> >
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> > Ellerslie, Georgia
> >
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