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Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted

To: "'Jeff Clarke'" <ku8e@ku8e.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted
From: "Yuri" <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 11:24:59 -0400
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Exactly, Jeff!

Do you know who belongs to your group #3?

Those guys from group 1 and 2 who want to be competitive and try to win 
existing SINGLE OPERATOR category within the limits of the EXISTING RULES. 
So, they just do improvements to their stations.

Those, who stuck within 1) or 2) - well, sorry for them, they are just not 
competitive.
If you think that adding extra category would really help them to feel "being a 
winner" - well, I don't think so. There always will be some unfairness (antenna 
height, location, etc.).

73  Yuri

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff 
Clarke
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:31 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted

Yuri,

You really need to compare the

1) A boy with Flex 6600, KT36XA (tribander) and dipoles and/or Inv. L's at 80'

OR

2) A boy with Kenwood TS-830S, TA33jr at 40' and low dipoles.

WITH

3) Someone with multiple towers with mono-band yagis on 40-10 meters and maybe 
a 4 square on 80 and a full size vertical or more on 160.


Of course #1 and #2 are close to being equal but neither of these are 
close to #3. Maybe Google the calls that are near the top in the weekly 
CWT's, NS and NAQP and you will find those who have the highest scores 
have a station that would be more like #3. But those that are stuck with 
a station you described for #1 and #2 are grouped into the same category 
as #3. Is that really fair?

Bottom line is I think what people are asking is that there should be a 
tri-bander/wires category so those people in #1 and #2 don't have to 
compete directly again #3. I guess I don't see what the big deal is to 
add another category. Do you think it would be fair for a F1 race car to 
compete again a NASCAR? It wouldn't even be close. You could use this 
same analogy when comparing antennas.

Jeff

On 8/17/2018 07:49 PM, John Geiger wrote:
> Or a boy with his Icom 718 and a dipole, the most unfair of all.
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Yuri <ve3dz@rigexpert.net> wrote:
>
>> Okay, let's look at "A Boy And His Radio + Tribander / Wires" category.
>>
>> 1) A boy with Flex 6600, KT36XA (tribander) and dipoles and/or Inv. L's at
>> 80'
>>
>> competes with:
>>
>> 2) A boy with Kenwood TS-830S, TA33jr at 40' and low dipoles.
>>
>> Looks fair?
>>
>> Same category.
>>
>> I bet the TS-830 guy would cry about unfairness...
>>
>> Have a great weekend, everyone.
>>
>>
>> 73  Yuri  VE3DZ
>>

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