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Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:41:10 -0500 (EST)
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I'd like to sell a bridge to anyone who believes they can win 
a Team Leader position by operating in VP9... 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 


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From: wigi@kl0r.com 
To: cq-contest@contesting.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 7:46:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 

While we're piling on (with good reason) VP9 isn't anywhere. 

Wigi, KL0R 

-----Original Message----- 
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Rastislav 
Hrnko 
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 8:17 AM 
To: Radio K0HB <kzerohb@gmail.com>; Karel Matousek <ok1cf@atlas.cz> 
Cc: k5zd@charter.net; Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>; Mats 
Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 

_yes , but with great scattering :-)) 

Rasto_OM3BH____________________________________________________________ 
> Od: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com> 
> Komu: "Karel Matousek" <ok1cf@atlas.cz> 
> Dátum: 02.01.2019 17:34 
> Predmet: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 
> 
> CC: <cq-contest@contesting.com, sm6lrr@gmail.com, k5zd@charter.net> 
And Minnesota is in the same group with West Virginia. Did they just throw 
darts at a map?73, de Hans, K0HB“Just a Boy and his Radio”™ On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 
at 09:28 Karel Matousek <ok1cf@atlas.cz> wrote:Hi, 

UA6 it is a completely different world than here in central Europe. I cannot 
believe that someone could invent such stupidity and put OK/OM and UA6 into one 
group. I agree with Rasta OM3BH. 



Karel OK1CF/OK5W 
______________________________________________________________ 
> Od: "Rastislav Hrnko" <om3bh@centrum.sk> 
> Komu: k5zd@charter.net, "&#39;Mats Strandberg&#39;" 
> <sm6lrr@gmail.com>, "&#39;cq-contest@contesting.com&#39;" 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com> 
> Datum: 02.01.2019 14:16 
> Předmět: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 
> 
Hi guys, 

Does anyone have a worse idea to include UA6 region together with OK, OM 
etc.... ??? Why not with UA9 ...? 
It would never have occurred to me. 


73 HNY Rasťo OM3BH 
______________________________________________________________ 
> Od: k5zd@charter.net 
> Komu: "&#39;Mats Strandberg&#39;" <sm6lrr@gmail.com>, 
> "&#39;cq-contest@contesting.com&#39;" <cq-contest@contesting.com> 
> Dátum: 02.01.2019 07:24 
> Predmet: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 
> 
It is up to the organizers, but in the past, this only meant that all 
single band scores were compared to the all band scores. Not that a 
single band entry could win and get the full qualifying points unless 
their score was higher than the top all band entry. 
It is possible in a contest like WPX for a single band entry to have a 
higher score than the all band entries. In this case, it makes sense 
that the single band entry would get the full qualifying points. But, 
in most cases, it will be the all band score that sets the standard. 

Regardless of the past, you are correct that the rules as written do 
not specify this clearly. 
Randy K5ZD 

-----------------------------------------From: "Mats Strandberg" 
To: cqtestk4xs@aol.com 
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com 
Sent: Tuesday January 1 2019 9:30:11AM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops 

Bill, 

Exactly the same struck me... 

A station with a decent antenna for any single band, can quite easily 
reach 
Full Score in 12 contests, while the very skilled SO2R All Band 
operator, 
quite easily can end up not on full score in some of the contests, 
due to 
much higher competition, with the result that the Single Band guy can 
grab 
that TL ticket quite easily. 

Or Bill, do we both miss something in the “small text” of the 
rules? 

73 de RM2D, Mats 

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 16:03, Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest < 
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote: 

> A couple of things popped out at me. 
> If I read the rules correctly: 
> Single band entries count the same as all band entries...big 
problem. 
> Station VP5XYZ operates with a smallt station on a band from which 
there 
> are usually not any single band efforts...160 or 10. He operates 
for a 
> couple of hours and winds up with 30 or 40 Qs. VP5ABC does AB and 
makes 
> 7000 Qs but finishes nr 2 for his area. VP5XYZ gets more WRTC 
credit than 
> the guy who busted butt for 40+ hours at VP5ABC. This could happen 
in many 
> of the qualifying areas. 
> In qualifying zones which are sparsely populated, what happens if 
no one 
> gets 25% of the top operator&#39;s score...no one goes from that 
district? 
> 
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS 
> 
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