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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX Contest Multioperator Station Guidelines

To: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd@outlook.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX Contest Multioperator Station Guidelines
From: "Eric Rosenberg" <ericrosenberg.dc@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Eric Rosenberg <ericrosenberg.dc@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:57:54 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
What can I say other than to suggest that the rule was not well thought out... to say the least.

In my case,one could take it to the limit hand and have W3LPL (37 km north) and NR4M (96 km south), two large mega-stations, use my call and likely beat the world.

Not only wouldn't that be fun, but rather, a disincentive for me (and them) to get on.

Unintended consequences, indeed. Somewhat analogous to the asterisk (*) next to athletic records.

A truly remote operation as they exist today (individual remotely located ops feeding a single station) would be the logical category, should one be needed.

To quote Randy, I will not expound on this topic any more.

73,
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC



------ Original Message ------
From: "Randy Thompson" <k5zd@outlook.com>
To: "Eric Rosenberg" <ericrosenberg.dc@gmail.com>; "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: 10/23/2020 6:09:10 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX Contest Multioperator Station Guidelines

Thanks for passing this along.  I think I will expand the 500m circle of my 
station by a few extra kilometers and send RI (Rhode Island) all weekend in the 
contest.  It appears the actual station location is no longer important for 
scoring purposes.  Of course, I feel bad for the guys who see my location as 
being MA and not RI as they had expected.

I will not expound on this topic any more.  Decisions and explanations have 
been made.

Randy K5ZD


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com> On Behalf 
Of Eric Rosenberg
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 1:33 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX Contest Multioperator Station Guidelines

For those of us in small geographic area with few active hams, this new rule 
presents an interesting scenario.

The District of Columbia's borders are a diamond, 6 mi (W->N) x 10 mi (N->E), x 9.7 
mi (E->S) x 10.6 mi (S->W), an area of 177 km2  (roughly
67 km2 parkland, 18.9 km2  water). The Potomac River is the western border.

I asked the following question on the PVRC mailing list (copying the Contest 
Desk @ ARRL)

This rule is a tough one for those of us who live in small areas.

Being in the District of Columbia -- which counts as a multiplier in
this contest -- it appears that all the participants in a multi-op
situation must be in the District. The few active home stations in DC
are relatively small -- the curse of living in an urban environment.
There are a couple of larger club stations, however (K3VOA and 4U1WB
come to mind), but they are not eligible to operate in this category.

My question is whether stations located in Maryland can be part of a DC
multioperator team. While DC is a separate multiplier in this contest,
it counts as Maryland for DXCC purposes.


The following was the response Paul Bourque, N1SFRE, Contet Program Manager 
sent to Tim Shoppa, N3QE, for posting to the PVRC email
reflector:

Good morning Tim,

Thanks for the good questions.  The exchange will be the same for all
stations participating in the multi-op, just as if they are physically
located at the station.  The variance in the rules for this year is
really just expanding the "500 meter circle" rule out to 100km.

I will clarify that on the ARRL website as well to add "and exchange"
to bullet point 4:

*       All team member stations must use the same call sign and
exchange as the multi-op contest station for the duration of the
contest.

I also saw Eric W3DQ's question in the PVRC list( below) - the
operators just have to be within 100km of each other, there are no
limitations to having to be located within the same state.  The only
limitation is that they have to be within the same DXCC entity.  If you
can pass my reply onto the list, as I'm not a member of that list, I'd
appreciate it.

Eric W3DQ, wrote:

"My question is whether stations located in Maryland can be part of a
DC multioperator team. While DC is a separate multiplier in this
contest, it counts as Maryland for DXCC purposes."

This rule variance is applying only to 2021 ARRL DX contest, not
Sweepstakes. The exchange and multipliers for ARRL DX is "State or
Province," not ARRL/RAC section-

Exchange: W/VE stations send a signal report and their state or
province. (See the ARRL Contest Multipliers List for a list of
abbreviations.) DX stations send a signal report and power as a number
or abbreviation.

If you can pass my reply onto the list, as I'm not a member of that
list, I'd appreciate it.

73,
Paul Bourque, N1SFE
Contest Program Manager

That being said, I can "host" the multioperator team, all of whom would send DC 
as the exchange. The cabrillo log would reflect that. For LoTW
(WAS) purposes, each station's would uploaded separately with their unique 
state and grid square information. I've this before with special event stations 
here in DC.

An interesting exercise, indeed!

73,
Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC (really!)

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:59:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: jimk8mr@aol.com
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Cc: "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX Contest Multioperator Station
     Guidelines
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No requirement that the individual stations must be in the same state or 
province?
Does one send the master station's state, or the state where they are actually 
located?? If the later, it might provide some good practice in copying what is 
actually sent.

73? -? Jim? ?K8MR
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