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Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.
From: ku8e <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:08:44 -0400
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RiaMaybe you did but before that statement you stated that "Hams are 
anti-technology". It seems to me you were suggesting that anyone who doesn't 
embrace assisted technology such as skimmer was against technology. Most 
serious contesters use lots of technology such as logging computers, radio 
control, CW keying, voicekeyers etc...I didn't rant about anything. I was just 
stating the facts. BTW not wanting to embrace technology isn't limited to only 
amateur radio. I have many older friends and family that just like doing things 
the way they always have.JeffSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: rjairam@gmail.com Date: 8/23/21  7:05 
AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector 
<cq-contest@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the 
Future of Contesting. Re-read what I said. You read the first part then went 
off on a rantbased on that alone.I did say you should have a choice. But 
"Please, no, a thousand timesNO!" by Hans means that he doesn't want that piece 
of tech to exist.THAT is being anti-technology.RiaN2RJOn Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 
8:17 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:>> Ria,>> With all due respect just 
because some of us of us don't want to use> certain technologies doesn't make 
us "anti technology"? Do all of us> have to operate the same way using the same 
technologies? Have you ever> thought that there are many contesters who like to 
operate non-assisted> because it gives them more personal satisfaction? 
Personally I get more> satisfaction finding my own contacts and multipliers 
instead of> operating in a way that's like catching fish in a barrel. I can> 
guarantee there are many contesters who have the same feeling as I do. I> have 
no problem if people operate the way they want to. (assisted or> non-assisted) 
Unfortunately the Single-Op rule changes in CQ WPX has> taken away the option 
to choose the way you want to operate. Pretty much> you have to operate 
assisted if you want to have a competitive score.>> Jeff KU8E>>> On 8/22/2021 
5:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:> > 97.1 Basis and purpose.> >> > ...> >> > 
(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to> > contribute 
to the advancement of the radio art.> >> > Hams being so anti technology is 
mind blowing. I have never seen such> > a paradox except in ham radio.> >> > 
(yes, it also talks about skill but that doesn't mean we have to shun> > 
technology).> >> > You don't have to use a voice skimmer, but someone will 
invent it. I> > hope that contest rules at least adapt to it - keep the 
unassisted> > categories (too late CQ WPX) without skimmer but allow it for 
assisted> > or "unlimited" categories.> >> > We already have the existing 
cluster with all of the "mechanical> > turks" putting in DX spots anyway.> >> > 
73> > Ria, N2RJ> >> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:01 PM Hans Brakob 
<kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:> >> Please, no, a thousand times NO!> >>> >> 73, de 
Hans, KØHB> >> “Just a Boy and his Radio”™> >> 
________________________________> >> From: CQ-Contest 
<cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on behalf of Richard F 
DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>> >> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 7:25:35 AM> 
>> To: Frank Donovan W3LPL (Frank Donovan W3LPL) <donovanf@erols.com>> >> Cc: 
reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 
Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.> >>> >> I guess the logical 
follow-up is what's next:> >>> >> I vote for voice "skimmer"...> >>> >> 73 Rich 
NN3W> >>> >> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 8:18 AM <donovanf@erols.com> wrote:> >>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing this Pete.> >>>> >>>> >>> Many of the forecasts proved 
to be accurate, but as often happens> >>> with forecasts , two of the most 
revolutionary changes that have> >>> greatly impacted contesting were totally 
unanticipated:> >>>> >>>> >>> - CW Skimmer and its associated Reverse Beacon 
Network, and> >>> - Explosive growth in the use of digital error correcting 
protocols,> >>> especially FT8> >>>> >>>> >>> "It’s tough to make predictions, 
especially about the future" – Yogi Berra> >>>> >>> 73> >>> Frank> >>> W3LPL> 
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----> >>>> >>> From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" 
<pete.n4zr@gmail.com>> >>> To: "reflector cq-contest" 
<CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 2:17:22 AM> >>> 
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.> >>>> >>> In 
2007, ES5TV compiled reflector users' predictions/guesses/wild-ass> >>> guesses 
about what contesting would look like ten years hence. It's now> >>> 4 years 
past his original time horizon, and I thought people would find> >>> it 
interesting, so I've put it in my Dropbox account at> >>> 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzpj6vhxuqtp6sf/10%20years%20later.pdf?dl=0> >>> 
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzpj6vhxuqtp6sf/10%20years%20later.pdf?dl=0>.> >>> 
Feel free to download the pdf and giggle...> >>>> >>> --> >>> 73, Pete N4ZR> 
>>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network> >>> web server at 
<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.> >>> For spots, please use your favorite> >>> 
"retail" DX cluster.> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________> 
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