Very well said.
Ed AI6O
> On Feb 2, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> The flaw in this argument is that many (most?) hams don't subscribe to RBN
> spots. Self spotting on CW actually helps reach another layer or two of
> casual ops and DXers in a contest. So arguing that using it on phone is just
> an analog for RBN is not quite true.
>
> Self spotting is another form of calling CQ using the Internet instead of
> radio.
>
> It does seem the hobby has evolved to the point where making a contact by any
> means is more fun/important than using tuning skills. Disappointing, but it
> is what it is. On we go into the future.
>
> Randy K5ZD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of Stan Stockton
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:48 AM
> To: Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc@gmail.com>
> Cc: cqtestk4xs@aol.com; CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
>
> I will attempt to explain the rationale. In CW contests everyone gets spotted
> automatically. All you have to do is call CQ and if you have a signal that
> can be heard you will be spotted on the RBN. In effect you are doing
> something to cause yourself to be spotted just by calling CQ. There is
> little argument that on CW it is perfectly fair since the existence of the
> RBN.
>
> However, on phone, there is no skimmer and those people who have more
> friends, belong to bigger clubs, etc are spotted more often than the other
> people. If everyone has the ability to self spot it doesn't put them in the
> assisted category any more than being automatically spotted on the RBN puts
> those operators in the assisted category. However, it makes it so those who
> are using assistance have equal access to everyone who is calling CQ.
>
> Stan, K5GO
>
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 9:28 AM Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So...there is really no "unassisted" category anymore, right?
>>
>> Wait a minute...I just looked at the latest ARRL International DX
>> Contest Rules, Categories for ARRL International DX Contest, Version
>> 2.0 - 04 Jan 2024, Entry Categories For ARRL DX (page 4 of 11), which
>> shows No Spotting Assistance for SO and SOSB (reference HCAT.1.1 and
>> HCAT.3.2.1).
>>
>> The term "self-spotting" is not addressed. However, on page 11, there
>> is a whole paragraph on the definition (Version 1.05, 10 Feb 2022) of
>> "Spotting/QSO Finding Assistance" that ends with this sentence:
>> "Generating spotting information for use by other stations is not
>> considered to be spotting assistance". So, does this include self-spotting?
>>
>> 73,
>> Henry - K4TMC
>> (always unassisted and no spotting)
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:23 PM Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it is allowed for all participants in all categories.
>>>
>>> Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:14 PM, cqtestk4xs--- via CQ-Contest <
>>> cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know self spotting is now allowed in ARRL DX if you are
>>>> assisted. Is
>>> it also allowed for UNASSISTED?
>>>> Bill V31XX/K4XS
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