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Re: [CQ-Contest] Many US stns out of band (John Dorr)

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Many US stns out of band (John Dorr)
From: John Dorr <cqk1ar@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 14:33:10 -0400
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Tangly indeed.

To avoid the NIL problem, it’s probably best not to work them. That said, my 
guess (and only a guess) is that the added QSO count from working them is a 
wash against others that later remove the QSOs.

73, John, K1AR

PS: On a positive note, take notice that we have already received over 8000 
logs from last weekend’s WW!

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2025, at 1:59 PM, Dave G. ve3kg@myrac.ca 
> <goodwindave.73@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> John K1AR said:
> 
> “Yes, we only remove the offender's QSO, NOT both. We don't expect ops to
> adjudicate OOB QSOs in real-time on the receiving side.”
> 
> Great!   That seems like good judgement by the adjudicators.  But they are
> missing another aspect:
> 
> When I get OOB callers from the US, I often tell them “you’re outside the
> US phone band.”   The usual response is silence, but more than a few delete
> the QSO from their logs.  In adjudication, I get assessed a penalty for
> “NOT IN LOG” QSOs, even though I worked the station.
> 
> So, should I work the OOB Yanks, and say nothing?   Should I refuse to log
> the OOB Yanks?   Their repeated calls get annoying, sometimes quite
> desperate and often a source of QRM.
> 
> This is tangly stuff.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Dave VE3KG
> (At VE3VN this past weekend)
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