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Re: [CQ-Contest] Many US stns out of band (John Dorr)

To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@me.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Many US stns out of band (John Dorr)
From: Kent Olsen <kilo6dko@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 13:12:47 -0700
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Canadian *law*? Is transmitting out of band a criminal offence?

Kent
N6WT


On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 12:52 PM Kelly Taylor via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:

> I suggest that as long as YOU aren’t doing anything wrong, work ‘em and
> move on.
>
> The lawbreaker is the American op outside his band. That should be a
> problem for the FCC to deal with, not foreigners. Canadian hams are not
> breaking Canadian law when working OOB Americans.
>
> If the problem is such that the contest organizer sees fit to nullify both
> sides of the QSO, so be it, but at least you’re not getting dinged for NIL
> penalties.
>
> ARRL SS rules are silent, other than to say operators must stick within
> the confines of their countries’ laws.
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>
> > On Oct 28, 2025, at 12:29 PM, Dave G. ve3kg@myrac.ca <
> goodwindave.73@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > John K1AR said:
> >
> > “Yes, we only remove the offender's QSO, NOT both. We don't expect ops to
> > adjudicate OOB QSOs in real-time on the receiving side.”
> >
> > Great!   That seems like good judgement by the adjudicators.  But they
> are
> > missing another aspect:
> >
> > When I get OOB callers from the US, I often tell them “you’re outside the
> > US phone band.”   The usual response is silence, but more than a few
> delete
> > the QSO from their logs.  In adjudication, I get assessed a penalty for
> > “NOT IN LOG” QSOs, even though I worked the station.
> >
> > So, should I work the OOB Yanks, and say nothing?   Should I refuse to
> log
> > the OOB Yanks?   Their repeated calls get annoying, sometimes quite
> > desperate and often a source of QRM.
> >
> > This is tangly stuff.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave VE3KG
> > (At VE3VN this past weekend)
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