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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnetfeaturesw/outnotification.
From: "Andy Henckel" <andy@multibandcom.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:45:53 -0700
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Are there any boards that exceed Karlnet spec with a small form factor and 
higher powered processor so that we aren't installing boards that will be 
antiquated by next year, forcing Karlnet to remove features or trim down kernel 
in order to make room for other features? 
I suppose it comes down to the economics... 
I think investors would rather we install devices that will be able to handle 
future upgrades without degraded performance. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Knuth [mailto:kknuth@karlnet.com]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:19 AM
To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet
featuresw/outnotification.


In regards to your request list:

1. Once the initial Karlnet load is on, you will be able to upgrade
units on your own.  So if you buy a KN-50 you will be able to do future
upgrades.
2. Working hard on 802.11a.  Our initial BETA test had issues-
apparently revolving around the older Atheros chipset.  We are waiting
on two things:  Newer radios and mini-PCI versions of the KN-100, as we
cannot find many cardbus 802.11a radios with external antenna
connectors.  You could use a flashrom with the RADIOLAN radios.  We do
have support for that currently.
3. I am checking on the SNMP support.  But it seems to me that there is
a technical reason it is not there (meaning- I do not think it can be
added), But I am checking!

Some of your other points are harder to answer.  Such as:

Why is work going into hotspots instead of 802.11a or upgradeable
KN-50s.  Actually, it is all going on.  We have teams of engineers
working on different projects.  The Hotspot product (WARP) was driven by
market demand.  We essentially have teams divided on the following
projects:

Karlbridge- This is our standard product with our custom kernel for
TurboCell and 802.11.
Hardware- Development of our own hardware and systems platforms
UBICOM- Development of features for UBICOM processors

And 2 internal projects that I cannot mention at this time.

I understand that from your viewpoint it often looks like Karlnet is not
progressing very fast.  What is actually more common is the following
scenario:  Karlnet is contracted by XYZ corp to add features to their
EOM version of a UBICOM reference design.  That work is added to our
knowledge base, so even if we do not fully implement the features of XYZ
corp, we have the ability too.  That is how NAT/DHCP came about.  We
have developed the feature for someone else, now we can put it in our
own version too.  The TurboCell module gets in the way a bit, so that
requires some changes.  You must always remember, we are working the
processor pretty hard with TurboCell, so it is not easy to add other
features.

What are we working on now?  Well, 802.11a support, new systems, and
enhanced features for the KN-50 are our primary projects.
  
Hope that this clarifies some of your concerns!

Kevin

**************************************
Kevin R. Knuth
Business Development Manager
North America
260-424-9690 Regional Office
614-822-5275 Corporate Office
kknuth@karlnet.com
www.karlnet.com
**************************************
 


-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Paul Horak
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:42 PM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet features
w/outnotification.


Thanks for the update Kevin. I hope you don't mind me
giving my 2 cents worth.

I have tested a lot of different wireless solutions
and I think Karlnet still has the best solution out
there. However, I have also become a little frustrated
with Karlnet over the last year or so and worry about
the future. For someone with software so far ahead of
the game a while ago, there doesn't seem to have been
much progress and others are catching up fast. I
wonder if development time at Karlnet is stretched to
the limit? If so, I would happily get rid of DHCP,
NAT, etc. and just buy a $50 router to do it (but
please tell me first :-)).

For me the key things I would like to see soon are:

1. Upgradable KN-50 type boards (having to send units
back for an upgrade is a disaster waiting to happen in
my view)
2. 802.11a support (so we can use 5GHz)
3. SNMP support in the KN-50s

When I heard many months ago that 802.11a support was
going into beta test in 'a week or two' I thought you
would have a killer solution. The Turbocell software
is very good and I have yet to see another outdoor
wireless product more suitable for an ISP. I don't
understand why devlopment time is going into Hotspot
support and other features when basic problems like non-upgradeble
KN-50s and lack of drivers for 802.11a still exist.

If possible, I would love to hear what Karlnet
consider priorities for future devlopment. I hope it
is NOT NAT/DHCP support on the KN-50s....

Cheers,

Paul

--- Kevin Knuth <kknuth@karlnet.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I wanted to give you an update.  I have been off
> work this week, but I
> still read email and was very concerned about the
> thread I was seeing
> here (yes, Karlnet DOES monitor this list and YES we
> do listen to
> customers).  ;)
> 
> Anyway- We are adding NAT/DHCP back into the Sx-4000
> series licenses.
> This is NOT a limited time offer.
> 
> >From what I gather, the decision to pull the
> Sx-4000 licenses was a
> based in a belief by our engineers that with the
> KN-50, there was no
> real benefit for the sx-4000 licenses anymore.
> 
> Clearly this is incorrect!
> 
> So- bottom line- You wanted a Sx-4000 license with
> NAT/DHCP- and you got
> it!
> 
> Kevin
> **************************************
> Kevin R. Knuth
> Business Development Manager
> North America
> 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> kknuth@karlnet.com
> www.karlnet.com
> **************************************
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Deaton
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:34 PM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: [Karlnet] Reduction of Karlnet features
> w/out notification.
> 
> 
> Just FYI, not trying to start any flaming, but be
> aware that karlnet is
> working on removing features like NAT & DHCP from
> the SR-4000 & possibly
> others.  We started flashing CPE's for our
> contractors to have next week
> & were met with an absence of NAT and DHCP as
> options.  This was a
> change that was made last night without
> notification, thus I am posting
> here.
> 
> Our standardized install entails contractors picking
> up RG's or KN's
> with NAT & DHCP so they always have a standard
> installation & don't need
> to understand IP addressing.  This is important when
> you have several
> different subnets that they will be connecting to
> (i.e. different towers
> & channels).  We then connect remotely on an
> as-needed basis & change
> settings if requested (i.e. client needs a public or
> static IP), but by
> default they're getting a NAT IP.  We have found
> this to be the best way
> to simplify things for installers.
> 
> I'd appreciate input on this concept as I know
> Karlnet monitors this
> thread.  If many ISP's use the NAT & DHCP it may
> help motivate them in
> our favor.  If not, it will help karlnet relieve
> overhead by not
> offering these features in the future.  To confirm,
> if you're using
> bridging or routing as a normal setup, this won't
> effect anything, so
> don't stress.  However, if you normally implement
> NAT/DHCP it may not be
> there anymore as of 7pm last night.  You will still
> pay the same for the
> licenses, but received reduced features unless you
> notify karlnet.  We
> found them to be interested in working with us to
> meet our needs, so
> this is more of a speed bump than a brick wall.
> They have offered to
> edit our web login, possibly all web logins, at
> license-it.com to offer
> options for NAT/DHCP, so voice your approval or
> disapproval so that they
> know what their users like.
> 
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Steve Deaton
> IT Director
> Texas Broadband, Inc.
> (888)868.3835 ext 85 (office)
> 979.289.0148 (office)
> 979.289.5117 (fax)
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Ben Polson
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:38 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> dB
> 
> Thanks Phil.  Sure, I'd love to see what this has
> produced for you.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of
> Phil
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:33 PM
> > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> dB
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure if it is correct but I've been
> dividing by 2 and then
> > subtracting 95.  I can show some examples of my
> S/N graphs that I
> > generate for all of our customers and APs if
> anyone wants to see them.
> 
> > (not attached of course)
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Polson [mailto:bsp@bandwave.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:33 AM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to dB
> > 
> > Does anyone know the algorithm to convert the
> INTEGER values returned
> > from the OIDs for signal and noise into dB values?
> > 
> > A signal value of 86 and noise value of 10 aren't
> as helpful as the dB
> 
> > values.  Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > -Ben.
> > 
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