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RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a

To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:50:41 -0400
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Only if your running @ 11Mbps... if your at 5.5Mbps (which I am, since
I'm only using the 30mw lucent cards, now if I was using the 200mw cards
w/ -89dBm rx, that's another story)

Anyways at 5.5Mbps, the speed isn't as good


> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:42 PM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> 
> I would agree with Dan,
> 
> This is something that you have to plan.
> 
> I do think the Knet systems offers more than Trango or Moto-
> specifically SPEED!
> 
> Kevin
> 
> ************************************************
> Kevin R. Knuth
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> 
> Maybe not, it does make for a difficult "migration" though, but if you
> install a new atheros AP and then only install atheros clients..
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Andy Henckel
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:22 PM
> > To: Norm Young; Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> >
> > Indeed.. pretty goofy.  Makes it pretty hard for us that have
invested
> a
> > lot of money into TC to continue with new products.
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:       karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-
> > bounces@WISPNotes.com]  On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent:       Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:17 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject:    Re: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> >
> > Wow.  That really limits where the  Atheros/TC system is going to
go,
> IMO.
> > I'd been hoping that I could upgrade my 2.4GHz WIPOPs to .11g TC.
> > Apparently not, as I cannot support my existing customers with it.
It
> > also
> > opens up the migration path to 5.2/.8 to other gear for TC WISPs, as
> there
> > is no (at this point) incentative  to stay with TC, as it doesn't
have
> the
> > track record of say, Trango or Moto.  (That is, unless something
> becomes
> > apparent.)  But I remain hopeful, as TC .11b  at 2.4GHz is currently
a
> > very
> > low cost, scalable solution.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@ai-wireless.com>
> > To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> >
> >
> > > I do believe this is due to the way the TurboCell code works.
> > >
> > > ************************************************
> > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > Business Development Manager
> > > (260) 424-9690 - Regional Office
> > > (818) 760-1000 x 233 -  Corporate Office
> > > kknuth@ai-wireless.com - Email
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Alex Phillips
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:53 PM
> > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > >
> > > Well that must be only limited to KN because I have an Atheros AP
> > > talking to Intersil in 11g mode.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:44 PM
> > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > >
> > > What I have from an email with a Karlnet engineer is the
following:
> > >
> > > What that means is that in a kbridge unit when you select "802.11b
> or
> > > 802.11g" mode with an Atheros radio,
> > > it won't talk to legacy 802.11b Agere or Intersil radios.
> > > So you cannot mix Atheros radio with any other radio in an ISP
> network.
> > > Atheros radios will only talk with Atheros radios.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > ************************************************
> > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > Business Development Manager
> > > (260) 424-9690 - Regional Office
> > > (818) 760-1000 x 233 -  Corporate Office
> > > kknuth@ai-wireless.com - Email
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:40 PM
> > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > >
> > > Is it possible to use the 5004chipset (which does a/b/g) and set
it
> to B
> > > mode to support those clients?
> > >
> > > Also is that limited to just "agere" or does that include prism
> clients
> > > as well
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of Support
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:40 PM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > >
> > > > My former work associate Kevin is correct, the Atheros based
> > > TurboCell(TC)
> > > > G
> > > > product will NOT function with Agere based TC 802.11b clients.
> > > >
> > > > Reg Mallory
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:08 PM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am NOT an authority on this- but I believe I was told that due
> to
> > > some
> > > > programming issue- the Atheros A/B/G radios will NOT function
with
> > > Agere
> > > > clients.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone still at Karlnet answer this?
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > ************************************************
> > > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > > Business Development Manager
> > > > (260) 424-9690 - Regional Office
> > > > (818) 760-1000 x 233 -  Corporate Office
> > > > kknuth@ai-wireless.com - Email
> > > > www.ai-wireless.com - Web
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Phillips
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:27 PM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > >
> > > > Will the 11g turbo ap support the 11b turbo remotes?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:18 PM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > >
> > > > Dan,
> > > >
> > > > One of our product lines is based on TurboCell- so I thought I
> should
> > > > keep in touch!
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is that Karlnet will be releasing the KN150 and
> KN250
> > > > that has a mini-PCI slot, so it can accommodate the "A" and "G"
> > > radios.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > ************************************************
> > > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > > Business Development Manager
> > > > (260) 424-9690 - Regional Office
> > > > (818) 760-1000 x 233 -  Corporate Office
> > > > kknuth@ai-wireless.com - Email
> > > > www.ai-wireless.com - Web
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> > > >
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if
> > > any,
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> > > > message.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:01 AM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > >
> > > > Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > How come the sudden return to the karlnet list?
> > > >
> > > > For 802.11a karlnet is releasing a new kn150 and kn250 correct?
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:01 AM
> > > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > > >
> > > > > The 802.11a product has not been released yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > It will be a mini-PCI based Atheros card.  There are several
> chipset
> > > > > versions on the market, but not all perform well enough for
> outdoor
> > > > use
> > > > > and FCC regulations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > ************************************************
> > > > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > > > Business Development Manager
> > > > > (260) 424-9690 - Regional Office
> > > > > (818) 760-1000 x 233 -  Corporate Office
> > > > > kknuth@ai-wireless.com - Email
> > > > > www.ai-wireless.com - Web
> > > > > ************************************************
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Fejer
Zsolt
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:06 AM
> > > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] 802.11a
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you tell me which type of 802.11a cards supported by
> karlnet
> > > AND
> > > > > has
> > > > > external antenna connector?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > Zsolt
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