I'd really like to hear about CPE solutions with Nstreme PtMP. Currently,
I'm using i19 panels with TC KN-50's, which I really like for their robust
PoE, reliability, minimal assembly, and very decent price point. What
would our alternatives be under Nstreme? Again, I'm familiar with MT
software, and I really like the forward thinking, preemptive feature
implementation, and very high quality that I've seen over the years.
I'd consider sticking with KN TC, if they could come up with a "g" or "a"
alternative...at least start sketching out what we can expect in CPEs and
base station software/hardware--and pricing. I'd also like KN to weigh in
on what the plan is for 802.16 compatibility. I'd also like to see some QoS
features built into TC...this is something that I currently do on the TCP/IP
level with our MT router. I'd like to see QoS on the wireless transport
level, and be able to put my business clients and possibly VOIP traffic at
the highest priority...etc.
Again, starting to make the decisions about what our high bandwidth (a, g,
802.16) PtMP platform is going to be. The runners are KN, Canopy, Trango,
and possibly MT.
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Tully" <tully@mikrotik.com>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> At 04:57 PM 4/30/2004, you wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >This may be a stupid question, but with this new polling protocol, will
> >the client need to also have this software or will a standard .11x
> >system talk to your ap running Nstreme?
>
> Actually, the current alpha/beta version of single radio nstreme does
allow
> both kinds of clients. We may offer a hybrid that accepts both, but it
> won't be as good as full nstreme.
>
> John
> www.mikrotik.com
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
> >Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:53 AM
> >To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> >
> >At 06:57 PM 4/29/2004, you wrote:
> > >John,
> > >
> > >I've been a user of MT for some time, and have been very pleased with
> >the
> > >router (which is our gateway router) and the continual improvements to
> >same.
> > >I'm really looking forward to this Nstreme protocol implementation. I
> >have
> > >a backhaul application, 17 mi. shot, low noise. Currently I'm using
> >KN
> > >2.4b, and I've outgrown it. I'd like to see at least 20Mbps on this
> >link.
> > >I'm currently looking at Motorola's Canopy, but I certainly like the
> > >functionality of your routers, and their ease of use. Do you think
> >this new
> > >polling protocol/Atheros 5.8GHz radios would work for this application?
> >
> >Yes, this is why we started making this protocol -- to get the highest
> >speed out of a long distance links and overcome the slowdown that occurs
> >
> >because of the ack-time increasing with the distance of the link. We
> >also
> >have a number of other things we are putting in this protocol to speed
> >up
> >the link -- some of these things are coming from our M3P (MikroTik
> >Packet
> >Packer Protocol) which has been around for three years or more and was
> >designed to overcome 802.11 protocol problems that occur with small
> >packets
> >(telephony packets are small).
> >
> >This protocol is still changing. All of the 'heavy lifting' parts have
> >been made and now we are just adding little things. I think we will
> >have
> >something pretty close to the final product in two weeks.
> >
> >The CPE has to use our RouterOS and any i386 SBC or regular
> >motherboard. We are working on lower cost solutions, but the time fram
> >is
> >too far to comment on.
> >
> >John
> >www.mikrotik.com
> >
> >
> > >If it works, I'm also looking at the next step on the PtMP front. What
> >do
> > >you have in the way of CPEs for Nstreme planned?
> > >
> > >Also John, if you'd like to reduce your volume of questions like these,
> >why
> > >don't you implement a message board much like the StarOS folks have?
> >The
> > >email MT board is too fragmented to be of much use in researching
> >questions
> > >like these. (Not completely useless, but much less useful than
> > >http://forums.star-os.com/ is for StarOS.)
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Norm
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "John Tully" <tully@mikrotik.com>
> > >To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:38 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 05:13 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >John,
> > > > >
> > > > >You will have a polling system soon? Please provide more details?
> > > >
> > > > Here is the initial document from a test package that you can put on
> >a
> > > > MikroTik AP/router/client.
> > > > http://www.mikrotik.com/Documentation/nstreme.pdf
> > > > Download page:
> > > > http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html
> > > >
> > > > There will be some significant changes in the next two weeks, so
> >this is
> > > > just for testing if you are interested. The Nstreme (TM) protocol
> >also
> > >has
> > > > the possibility for two radios (one tx only and one rx only) -- also
> >one
> > > > radio is supported for the multipoint Nstreme.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > > www.mikrotik.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM
> > > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 02:35 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > >John,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Have you thought about supporting the KN PC Driver for Linux so
> >you
> > > > >can
> > > > > > >setup a Satellite station off a KN TC network?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For 2.4GHz solutions, most people use our AP only and use some
> >low
> > > > >cost
> > > > > > client solution -- unless they need a very smart router at the
> >client,
> > > > >and
> > > > > > then they use our client solution also. For 5GHz, people use
> >all
> > > > >MikroTik
> > > > > > RouterOS products (and usually www.routerboard.com products) for
> >a
> > > > > > complete
> > > > > > high speed solution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, I don't think it would be so useful to have KN TC 2.4GHz
> >client
> > > > >only
> > > > > > support in our system. If the Linux driver includes source,
> >then it
> > > > > > wouldn't be difficult to add it -- but are many people
> >interested in
> > > > >this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, we will have the so called 'polling' feature soon -- and
> >from
> > > > >what I
> > > > > > know about the Karlnet TC, ours will have some important
> >features that
> > > > >are
> > > > > > not in the TC. For example, ours will use multiple rates
> >(actually,
> > > > >ours
> > > > > > uses the best rate for throughput) -- where I have read that
> >with
> > > > >some/all
> > > > > > TC versions you have to set only one rate for the AP. Of course
> >I am
> > > > >not
> > > > > > an expert on TC, so I may be wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:56 AM
> > > > > > >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >You can do that with a MikroTik RouterOS AP.
> > > > > > >http://www.mikrotik.com/docs2.8/interface/bridge.main
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >John
> > > > > > >www.mikrotik.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >At 06:15 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >It's a shame that with 4 interfaces on the KN-200 that you
> >can't
> > > > >define
> > > > > > >L2
> > > > > > > >bridge groups - For example, define Interfaces 1 & 2 as
> >"Group 1"
> > > > >and
> > > > > > > >Interfaces 3 & 4 as "Group 2" so that you can then route
> >between
> > > > >Group
> > > > > > >1 &
> > > > > > > >Group 2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >On 2004-04-26 at 10:34 PM Paul Horak wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Anybody know if you can bridge and route on the same
> > > > > > > > >radio (KN200 in this rather bizarre case :-))? If so,
> > > > > > > > >please can you share the config? Turning on routing
> > > > > > > > >seems to automatically deny bridging of IP traffic.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Paul
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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