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RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next

To: "'Bob Hrbek'" <bhrbek@jagwireless.net>,"'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:40:05 -0600
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Jason Radford, Double Radius - jasonr@doubleradius.com
Tell him I sent you.

They're made by Beehive Telecom (or some such) and some other company.
They're metal, not fiberglass, and are much nicer than the ugly Moto dishes.
We prefer these not only because they're 1/2 price, but because they look
much nicer on a customers house - especially with our name labeled on the
front with vinyl.

Regards,
Jayson A. Baker
Peak Internet Solutions
A Fundamental Company


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Hrbek [mailto:bhrbek@jagwireless.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:35 AM
To: Jayson A. Baker
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next

I'm guessing you don't like charles?  :)   Where are you getting the $50
dish?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next


> Oh, you mean, the extra $50 for the reflector dish?
>
> Yes, if you are more than 5mi w/ 5.7, or 7mi w/ 2.4, you need a dish.
>
> Regards,
> Jayson A. Baker
> Peak Internet Solutions
> A Fundamental Company
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Charles Wu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:26 PM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
> You're forgetting to add the extra $125 for the reflector dish...
>
> -Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Jayson A. Baker
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:13 PM
> To: 'Norm Young'; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
>
> Or 5.2, or 2.4...
> w/ 5.7 - 15mi
> w/ 2.4 - 30mi
>
> Thus the reason we have 100's of these, and only 40 KN.
>
> We buy 100 at a time, finance them over 2-3 years, then "rent" them to the
> customer.  We charge $99 up front for install, then starting at $49.95/mo
> and that includes the rental charge.
>
> But this allows us to run a free install promo, sell 100 units, and REAP
the
> monthly recurring charges.  Mmm...
>
> Regards,
> Jayson A. Baker
> Peak Internet Solutions
> A Fundamental Company
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Norm Young
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:01 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
> Am I to understand that you are paying $275 for a CPE/ 5.8GHz?   What sort
> of range?
>
> Norm
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
> To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
>
> > Our first 30 pack of SM's was around $400 each, now we pay $275 each.
> >
> > It's not Motorola, it's the industry.  Ever see how much a car cost 5
> years
> > ago?  See how much it costs today?  How about a brand new Dell
> > computer. Again, it's not Moto, it's the industry and the market that
> > controls the pricing.
> >
> > Our competition is the cable company, the telephone company, and some
> other
> > little WISP's in town using 802.11b and KN.  We blow them away.
> >
> > Quite possibly the biggest reason we can compete with cable is that
> > our network is 10x more reliable and we can offer an SLA and uptime
> > guarantee. Canopy, when using the BAM software, is also burstable - I
> > sell a customer 384Kbps and when they get 4.2Mbps they shit.  (And
> > then tell all their
> > friends.)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jayson A. Baker
> > Peak Internet Solutions
> > A Fundamental Company
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:55 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >
> > I don't know Jason.  I certainly can side with you on a few of your
posts
> > but how is Motorola any different?   Ever see what MOT sells a cable
modem
> > for?  5 years ago I paid $350 for one.   I figured it would be cheaper
> than
> > the $15/mo rental.   I think they are around $50-$75 now?
> >
> > How much is that SM?   and the AP?   Who is your competition, who is
> > supplying them products and who has the deep pockets?
> >
> >
> > -bob
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
> > To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >
> >
> > > That's awesome.  The equipment manufacturer is now our (not our, but
> > WISP's)
> > > competitor.
> > >
> > > Morons.  Had we not already disowned KN and YDI years prior, this
> > > would
> be
> > > the icing on the cake for us.
> > >
> > > Think about it... a company with obviously deep pockets who you're
> paying
> > > more money now to for products you used to but from KN is taking
> > > that
> > money
> > > you're paying them and they're using it to compete with you.
> > >
> > > It's like owning a local Wendy's, but buying all your product from
> > > McDonald's.  Their profits go up, they get bigger, and you end up
> > > losing out.
> > >
> > > If anyone else wants to switch to Canopy shoot me an e-mail and I'll
> > answer
> > > any questions you may have.  I can put you in contact with great
> > > leasing companies for financing large purchases, and will offer you
> > > limited free consulting to get you off the ground.
> > >
> > > I don't like it when companies do things like this - so I'll help to
> > > put them out of business.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jayson A. Baker
> > > Peak Internet Solutions
> > > A Fundamental Company
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:44 PM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> > >
> > > Holy crap.  A mere $3M.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe Correia" <Joe@FallRiverOnline.com>
> > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:26 PM
> > > Subject: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> > >
> > >
> > > > Let me see if I get this right.
> > > > Karlnet was bought out by YDI. Right?
> > > > Then YDI got the ISP Richochet.
> > > > http://www.ydi.com/company/pressreleases/pr-20040630.php
> > > > Is it just me or is there a pattern starting to show it's ugly
> > > > head
> > here?
> > > >
> > > > --Joe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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