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Re: [RFI] Cree LED Bulbs?

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Cree LED Bulbs?
From: Richard Battles <wb4byq@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:25:17 -0500
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Just talk to another ham who does landscape work for his son,

He as seen the same problem with the landscape lighting system using
switching powersupplies, will cause rfi to the am broadcast
band.  Had to replace the power supply with a non-switching type that he
purchased a Lowes for the lights.  the powersupply from
lowes was a linear type, the last time he was there about 3 weeks ago the
same unit was in stock.  He said that the led's are all powered from the
supply. He has done this several times with the LED lighting systems.
Maybe this is your problem with the
neighbor.

richard

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>wrote:

> This is probably classic switching supply noise - the linear power
> supply/battery would be a good way to rule out the lights themselves.  You
> could, unfortunately, have radiation both from the AC input to the power
> supply (sending RF back to the mains) and from the wiring to the individual
> lights, and if the racket extends to UHF, choosing the right ferrite(s)
> could be interesting.  Keep us informed, please!
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> http://reversebeacon.net,
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> For spots, please go to your favorite
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
>
> On 3/11/2013 12:38 AM, Mike Ryan wrote:
>
>> The supplies utilized were of the same 'ilk' and not a linear type such
>> as an Astron, etc.  I never got a chance to do the battery check today but
>> may very well be able to do so on Monday. I am also going to take a little
>> 10 amp supply over there as well to try it.  But BROTHER are this lighting
>> system noisy.  I will update the group as to what I find.  - Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Dale
>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:49 PM
>> To: Mike Ryan ; rfi@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Cree LED Bulbs?
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> When you changed out the power supplies, did you change to another power
>> supply identical to the original, or did you change to a known "linear"
>> power supply (NOT a switcher)?  The battery and a linear supply should
>> produce quiet, identical results.  If not, then the individual light/lamp
>> units might contain integral small switchers.  That would be a real bummer.
>>
>> 73, Dale
>> WA9ENA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: Mike Ryan <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Mar 10, 2013 3:48 PM
>>> To: rfi@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Cree LED Bulbs?
>>>
>>> I have a neighbor across the street that just installed a $400+
>>> landscaping
>>> lighting system. These are KILLING me on HF when they turn on at night.
>>>  I
>>> even get noise on 220 and 440 FM from them.  We have changed out the
>>> power
>>> supplies..no help. I am going to try a CAR BATTERY to see what happens.
>>> That might isolate the problem to the power supply.  But if that doesn't
>>> work, I guess I will have to try some clip of ferrite blocks.  I wonder
>>> if
>>> these are the same thing you are working with and if so, what's the fix?
>>> The neighbor has been 'receptive' but I don't want to keep getting in his
>>> face about it until I am on to the fix  - Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Kreider
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:32 PM
>>> To: rfi@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Cree LED Bulbs?
>>>
>>> I bought some cheap LED bulbs on ebay which range from bad RFI to
>>> horrible RFI.    So while they were cheap (maybe as low as $6), I
>>> recommend staying away from Ebay. They also produce less light than
>>> advertized (the 9 watt bulbs were dimmer than the 7 watt ones I got at
>>> Lowes).  The quality control was terrible.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 3/10/2013 4:01 PM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone familiar withthe LED light bulbs made by Cree (www.cree.com)
>>>>
>>>> They look nice and are half the price of the competition.
>>>>
>>>> They are available from Home Depot, on-line only through the end of this
>>>> month, and then in the stores.
>>>>
>>>> I'm (obviously) interested in whether they generate rfi/noise!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Eric W3DQ
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