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Re: [RFI] shopping for toroids

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Subject: Re: [RFI] shopping for toroids
From: Pierfrancesco Caci <pf@tippete.net>
Reply-to: Pierfrancesco Caci <pf@tippete.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:02:05 +0100
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>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> writes:


    Jim> Hello Pf,
    Jim> As it turns out, I am currently organizing a group purchase of #31
    Jim> cores for several local (Northern California) ham clubs. The parts we
    Jim> are buying this time around are 0431177081, which is a 0.75-in

cool, I have this in my list too. EUR 13.03 each, in small quantities.

    Jim> i.d. "clamp-on" intended for multi-turn chokes on small cables (home
    Jim> entertainment systems, computer cables, battery chargers) and
    Jim> 2631181381, which is a 1.4-in i.d. clamp-on that is 2.5-in long.  It

mouser seems not to have it in stock. 


    Jim> Several years ago, GM3SEK made me aware of the very high cost of
    Jim> ferrite cores in EU, so I started working on chokes that could be
    Jim> effective with fewer cores. This resulted in the "bifilar" designs
    Jim> that you'll find in the latest version of my RFI tutorial (about
    Jim> 2010). The principle is simple -- take two insulated AWG #12 copper
    Jim> conductors about 1.3 m long, tape them together, wind 12-16 turns
    Jim> around a single #31 toroid, and connect them as a short section of
    Jim> parallel wire transmission line. Insulated "house wire" will give Zo
    Jim> of about 85-95 ohms, enameled wire gives Zo about 50 ohms.  Both work
    Jim> very well with antennas in the range of 50-100 ohms. 16 turns is good
    Jim> for 160M to about 17M, 12 turns is better for 80M to 10M. AWG #12
    Jim> copper is 0.08-in diameter.

    Jim> These bifilar chokes can handle transmit power of 1.5 kW if the
    Jim> antenna is reasonably well balanced and operated near resonance. In
    Jim> other words, a center-fed half-wave dipole, a typical beam, and a
    Jim> vertical with a good radial system.  They will NOT handle high power
    Jim> of the antenna is  badly unbalanced (off-center fed), or if the VSWR
    Jim> is VERY high (like an 80M dipole fed on 40M).

Nice, I didn't realize I had an older version of your tutorial. You're
talking about fig. 37, right? My 80m dipole, while a full-size center
fed one, is mounted in an odd way so it's going to be quite unbalanced,
although hopefully not as a OCF one. 

    Jim> As to the #43 parts -- the discounts for buying full boxes of #31
    Jim> parts make them cheaper than #43 parts, and the #31 are more
    Jim> universally useful.  That is, #31 is greatly superior below 5 MHz,
    Jim> roughly equivalent from 5-15 MHz, and still quite effective to 100
    Jim> MHz.  #43 is a dB or so better between 20 MHz and 50 MHz.

Ok, I read those graphs correctly. all #31 then. Need to do some more
reading before finalizing my shopping list. 

Thanks

Pf


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Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx
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