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Re: [RFI] RFI Digest, Vol 186, Issue 15

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Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI Digest, Vol 186, Issue 15
From: <kb2wig@twcny.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 15:26:07 +0000
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Holy Moly!  2 tons of A/C for a shack?  That's enough for a whole house!  "

His shack is a house.
  
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>    1. Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted (Donald Chester)
>    2. Re: Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted (NA6MB Mike)
>    3. Re: Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted (Randy Standke)
>    4. Re: Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted (Steve Kurtzman)
>    5. Re: Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
>    6. Re: Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted (Roger (K8RI))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 02:57:04 +0000
> From: Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
> To: "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
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> The window a/c in my shack finally gave up the ghost after 40 years of 
> reliable service. I need a replacement right away, since especially with the 
> station equipment running it gets too hot in summer to even be inside the 
> shack without a/c.  Looking preferably for something with simple thermostat 
> control and no hi-tech, RFI spewing technology such as switching power 
> supplies,  pulse-width controlled variable speed motors and digital stuff 
> that will likely fail after a couple of years. 
> 
> Around 20k - 25k BTU; the old one is 23k.  Checked local stores and about the 
> only brands they have are LG, General Electric and Frigidaire, and not a lot 
> of selection in the 25k BTU range.
> 
> >From on-line searches and product reviews, I have surmised that L-G units 
> >are very quiet and efficient but filled with the very kind of electronics 
> >that generates RFI.  G-E gets poor customer reviews with complaints of bad 
> >customer support and poor replacement parts availability.  Frigidaire gets 
> >the best customer reviews, but of course none of the on-line information on 
> >any of them makes even a fleeting mention of RFI.
> 
> It will be mounted in a hole in the wall about 8' high from the floor, so 
> installation of a 130-150 lb unit will be a challenge, and the thing has to 
> be reliable due to the near impossibility of pulling it out for servicing.
> 
> Any advice based on someone's recent experience?
> 
> 
> Don k4kyv
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 22:04:26 -0500
> From: NA6MB Mike <na6mb.mike@gmail.com>
> To: Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
> Cc: "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
> Message-ID: <4EC0C238-804B-4978-A0FB-4849C79ADDA2@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=us-ascii
> 
> We have a mini split at our house in Cabo ... works great!
> No rfi.
> 
> NA6MB 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Jul 12, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The window a/c in my shack finally gave up the ghost after 40 years of 
> > reliable service. I need a replacement right away, since especially with 
> > the station equipment running it gets too hot in summer to even be inside 
> > the shack without a/c.  Looking preferably for something with simple 
> > thermostat control and no hi-tech, RFI spewing technology such as switching 
> > power supplies,  pulse-width controlled variable speed motors and digital 
> > stuff that will likely fail after a couple of years. 
> > 
> > Around 20k - 25k BTU; the old one is 23k.  Checked local stores and about 
> > the only brands they have are LG, General Electric and Frigidaire, and not 
> > a lot of selection in the 25k BTU range.
> > 
> > From on-line searches and product reviews, I have surmised that L-G units 
> > are very quiet and efficient but filled with the very kind of electronics 
> > that generates RFI.  G-E gets poor customer reviews with complaints of bad 
> > customer support and poor replacement parts availability.  Frigidaire gets 
> > the best customer reviews, but of course none of the on-line information on 
> > any of them makes even a fleeting mention of RFI.
> > 
> > It will be mounted in a hole in the wall about 8' high from the floor, so 
> > installation of a 130-150 lb unit will be a challenge, and the thing has to 
> > be reliable due to the near impossibility of pulling it out for servicing.
> > 
> > Any advice based on someone's recent experience?
> > 
> > 
> > Don k4kyv
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:19:13 -0700
> From: "Randy Standke" <r55stan@gmail.com>
> To: "'NA6MB Mike'" <na6mb.mike@gmail.com>,    "'Donald Chester'"
>       <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
> Message-ID: <010001d41a58$4691ee00$d3b5ca00$@gmail.com>
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> 
> I have a Friedrich Chill CP06G10B 6000 BTU Window Air Conditioner mounted in
> the wall of the upstairs bedroom that is my "shack."  No RFI at all.  Maybe
> they have a model in your BTU range.  I did run it before installing it just
> to check before cutting the hole in my wall that fits this A/C, while it
> would have been easy to return.
> 
> Randy KQ6RS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of NA6MB Mike
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:04 PM
> To: Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
> Cc: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
> 
> We have a mini split at our house in Cabo ... works great!
> No rfi.
> 
> NA6MB 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Jul 12, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The window a/c in my shack finally gave up the ghost after 40 years of
> reliable service. I need a replacement right away, since especially with the
> station equipment running it gets too hot in summer to even be inside the
> shack without a/c.  Looking preferably for something with simple thermostat
> control and no hi-tech, RFI spewing technology such as switching power
> supplies,  pulse-width controlled variable speed motors and digital stuff
> that will likely fail after a couple of years. 
> > 
> > Around 20k - 25k BTU; the old one is 23k.  Checked local stores and about
> the only brands they have are LG, General Electric and Frigidaire, and not a
> lot of selection in the 25k BTU range.
> > 
> > From on-line searches and product reviews, I have surmised that L-G units
> are very quiet and efficient but filled with the very kind of electronics
> that generates RFI.  G-E gets poor customer reviews with complaints of bad
> customer support and poor replacement parts availability.  Frigidaire gets
> the best customer reviews, but of course none of the on-line information on
> any of them makes even a fleeting mention of RFI.
> > 
> > It will be mounted in a hole in the wall about 8' high from the floor, so
> installation of a 130-150 lb unit will be a challenge, and the thing has to
> be reliable due to the near impossibility of pulling it out for servicing.
> > 
> > Any advice based on someone's recent experience?
> > 
> > 
> > Don k4kyv
> > 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:33:41 -0700
> From: Steve Kurtzman <stevew7sjk@gmail.com>
> To: Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
> Cc: "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Holy Moly!  2 tons of A/C for a shack?  That's enough for a whole house!
> 
> Steve
> sparkie001@pobox.com
> stevew7sjk@gmail.com
> www.facebook.com/imetsteve
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > The window a/c in my shack finally gave up the ghost after 40 years of
> > reliable service. I need a replacement right away, since especially with
> > the station equipment running it gets too hot in summer to even be inside
> > the shack without a/c.  Looking preferably for something with simple
> > thermostat control and no hi-tech, RFI spewing technology such as switching
> > power supplies,  pulse-width controlled variable speed motors and digital
> > stuff that will likely fail after a couple of years.
> >
> > Around 20k - 25k BTU; the old one is 23k.  Checked local stores and about
> > the only brands they have are LG, General Electric and Frigidaire, and not
> > a lot of selection in the 25k BTU range.
> >
> > From on-line searches and product reviews, I have surmised that L-G units
> > are very quiet and efficient but filled with the very kind of electronics
> > that generates RFI.  G-E gets poor customer reviews with complaints of bad
> > customer support and poor replacement parts availability.  Frigidaire gets
> > the best customer reviews, but of course none of the on-line information on
> > any of them makes even a fleeting mention of RFI.
> >
> > It will be mounted in a hole in the wall about 8' high from the floor, so
> > installation of a 130-150 lb unit will be a challenge, and the thing has to
> > be reliable due to the near impossibility of pulling it out for servicing.
> >
> > Any advice based on someone's recent experience?
> >
> >
> > Don k4kyv
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > RFI mailing list
> > RFI@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rfi
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:47:12 -0600
> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
> Message-ID: <46c9ecf0-339b-1523-5039-327d8ea43cb9@w0mu.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> I have a little 8000 or 10000 btu one for my 12 x 20 shack. Keeps it 
> nice and cool with 4 or 5 computers, screens, rigs, amps, etc.?? One is? 
> CCH and the other is a Honeywell for my shop office.? I have never 
> noticed any noise from either.? They both sit on the floor with an 
> adapter to vent the hot air.
> 
> 
> W0MU
> 
> 
> On 7/12/2018 9:33 PM, Steve Kurtzman wrote:
> > Holy Moly!  2 tons of A/C for a shack?  That's enough for a whole house!
> >
> > Steve
> > sparkie001@pobox.com
> > stevew7sjk@gmail.com
> > www.facebook.com/imetsteve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Donald Chester <k4kyv@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The window a/c in my shack finally gave up the ghost after 40 years of
> >> reliable service. I need a replacement right away, since especially with
> >> the station equipment running it gets too hot in summer to even be inside
> >> the shack without a/c.  Looking preferably for something with simple
> >> thermostat control and no hi-tech, RFI spewing technology such as switching
> >> power supplies,  pulse-width controlled variable speed motors and digital
> >> stuff that will likely fail after a couple of years.
> >>
> >> Around 20k - 25k BTU; the old one is 23k.  Checked local stores and about
> >> the only brands they have are LG, General Electric and Frigidaire, and not
> >> a lot of selection in the 25k BTU range.
> >>
> >>  From on-line searches and product reviews, I have surmised that L-G units
> >> are very quiet and efficient but filled with the very kind of electronics
> >> that generates RFI.  G-E gets poor customer reviews with complaints of bad
> >> customer support and poor replacement parts availability.  Frigidaire gets
> >> the best customer reviews, but of course none of the on-line information on
> >> any of them makes even a fleeting mention of RFI.
> >>
> >> It will be mounted in a hole in the wall about 8' high from the floor, so
> >> installation of a 130-150 lb unit will be a challenge, and the thing has to
> >> be reliable due to the near impossibility of pulling it out for servicing.
> >>
> >> Any advice based on someone's recent experience?
> >>
> >>
> >> Don k4kyv
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> RFI mailing list
> >> RFI@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rfi
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 04:16:02 -0400
> From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Window Air Conditioner Advice Wanted
> Message-ID: <2c28fa07-2665-ecfe-e312-08f7be9573ad@rogerhalstead.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> I have a single window AC in my 28 X 40' shop.? I'm not sure of the 
> rating, other than I went to Low's and told them I wanted the largest 
> window AC they handled. It runs on 240 AC and easily cools the entire 
> shop to 76F (on 95 + deg days) which has a 16W X 12H insulated garage 
> door on the E end and an 8 X 8 insulated garage door at the W end of the 
> S side.? Even with the big amp running.? It doesn't appear to add much 
> to the shop's electric bill.
> I'll try to find the ratings.
> 
> This is my second AC out there.? The first loaded up with the seeds from 
> cottonwood trees plugging the radiator and cooking the compressor after 
> abt 10 years.
> 
> 73, Roger (K8RI)
> 
> 
> On 7/12/2018 10:57 PM, Donald Chester wrote:
> > The window a/c in my shack finally gave up the ghost after 40 years of 
> > reliable service. I need a replacement right away, since especially with 
> > the station equipment running it gets too hot in summer to even be inside 
> > the shack without a/c.  Looking preferably for something with simple 
> > thermostat control and no hi-tech, RFI spewing technology such as switching 
> > power supplies,  pulse-width controlled variable speed motors and digital 
> > stuff that will likely fail after a couple of years.
> >
> > Around 20k - 25k BTU; the old one is 23k.  Checked local stores and about 
> > the only brands they have are LG, General Electric and Frigidaire, and not 
> > a lot of selection in the 25k BTU range.
> >
> > >From on-line searches and product reviews, I have surmised that L-G units 
> > >are very quiet and efficient but filled with the very kind of electronics 
> > >that generates RFI.  G-E gets poor customer reviews with complaints of bad 
> > >customer support and poor replacement parts availability.  Frigidaire gets 
> > >the best customer reviews, but of course none of the on-line information 
> > >on any of them makes even a fleeting mention of RFI.
> >
> > It will be mounted in a hole in the wall about 8' high from the floor, so 
> > installation of a 130-150 lb unit will be a challenge, and the thing has to 
> > be reliable due to the near impossibility of pulling it out for servicing.
> >
> > Any advice based on someone's recent experience?
> >
> >
> > Don k4kyv
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> -- 
> Roger (K8RI)
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