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Re: [RFI] Multi-Stage High Efficiency Air Conditioner Units

To: "'James Jordan'" <k4qpl2@gmail.com>, "'Kim Elmore'" <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Multi-Stage High Efficiency Air Conditioner Units
From: <r55stan@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 10:39:55 -0800
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
I was receiving some weak to moderate RFI from my Carrier HVAC unit.  I 
installed a line filter and ferrites on the power chord.  That helped, but I 
was not satisfied.  Then I installed ferrites on the cable to the thermostat 
and that reduced the remaining RFI to extremely faint on a SDR display.  Just 
about undetectable.  I consider that fixed.  The lesson for me on that project 
was RFI can get out of a piece of equipment on EVERY conductor that comes out 
of it.  I think we tend to only focus on the power chord because for most 
appliances those are the only wires connected to it.  My only other comment is 
a single pass through a ferrite probably won't reduce a strong RFI source 
enough.

Randy KQ6RS

-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+r55stan=gmail.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of James 
Jordan
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:27 AM
To: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Multi-Stage High Efficiency Air Conditioner Units

Can't be specific on HVAC units, but the Schaffer line filters, available in 
various amperage ratings from Mouser can be inserted in the power circuits. 
Mouser 631-FN2070[ampere rating]. I Use them on Pentair variable speed pool 
pumps at VP5 and they killed very nasty RFI from those motors. I would 
negotiate with an installer of higher quality units (Carrier, Trane) (Avoid the 
cheap Goodman, Coleman, etc.) that if the unit creates RFI that they will 
install appropriate line filters. We have a top end Carrier variable speed 
multi-stage unit and I'm not getting any RFI, but my hamshack is quite a ways 
from it in a detached garage bonus room so it's still possible some is being 
generated.
Good luck.  The high efficiency definitely saves electricity.
73,
Jim K4QPL

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:19 PM Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> My wife has been interested in increasing the efficiency of our air 
> conditioner units. It seems that the only path to better efficiency is 
> multi-stage/multi-speed units. I recall a lot of talk about the 
> horrific RF noise these things generate. Does anyone know of RF-silent units?
>
> Kim N5OP
>
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> Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, 
> PP SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
>
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