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Re: [RFI] HVAC - some observations

To: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFI] HVAC - some observations
From: Jim Rhodes <jimk0xu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: jim@rhodesend.net
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 07:28:24 -0500
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Yes, our priority with them is pretty low. That is the problem. With the
new fees in place we are now paying customers for their service. I bet that
doesn't raise our priority a bit.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 5:11 AM Hare, Ed, W1RFI <w1rfi@arrl.org> wrote:

> Like the police, the FCC does want to do its job, but I like the analogy;
> we could not afford enough cops to catch every speeder.
>
> What ARRL has done is to work out a process with the FCC where the League
> does much of the work up front, preparing cases for the FCC to take on to
> one degree or another.
>
> Our initial work does the following:
>
>
>   *   Determines whether the problem meets the FCC's definition of harmful
> interference.
>   *   Determines that the correct source of noise has been identified
>   *   Determines that reasonable efforts have been made to try to work it
> out between the involved parties
>
> If the Lab staff determine that interference actually exists and that the
> ham is at an impasse trying to resolve it, we then start the process by
> contacting the neighbor/utility/etc., explaining the issues and emphasizing
> that the amateur and ARRL want to help.  We then do what we can to help.
>
> If the utility, company or neighbor are being cooperative, it is almost
> always best to continue to try to help resolve it.  In the case of
> companies and utilities, a letter from the FCC can be met by pushing the
> entire case over to the company attorneys, who almost always see their jobs
> as trying to get the company off the hook.
>
> If all that fails, we then turn the case over to the FCC. Initially, it
> writes an "advisory letter" to the involved party, with a follow up.  Where
> the case gets really hard is if actual enforcement seems necessary.  The
> FCC cannot issue an actual enforcement based only on a complaint, so it
> would need to have a field office do an investigation.  The FCC can and has
> done these, but their priority for amateur radio is pretty low, so this is
> an area that needs more "cooperative process" to try to move a few cases
> off of dead center.
>
> Ed, W1RFI
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> on behalf of David
> Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:20 PM
> To: James Jordan <k4qpl2@gmail.com>
> Cc: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] HVAC - some observations
>
> I understand, Jim.  But I have only to mention the whole Solar Power
> industry.  In that respect, our very own ARRL is doing the job FCC was
> originally chartered to do.
>
> Dave - WØLEV
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:41 PM James Jordan <k4qpl2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think we can all be a bit more constructive on this reflector and stay
> > on point to solve the problems ourselves. Get out on the Interstate and
> > check out the number of serious speeders. How many cops would it take to
> > catch them all? Are we willing to pay enough taxes for that? I don't
> think
> > so and the FCC has never had enough resources to run down all reported
> > violations. The country would never consent to paying for that in any
> event.
> > 73,
> > Jim K4QPL
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 4:42 PM David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I realize the present FCC is just a collection of overpaid lawyers
> >> who
> >> wouldn't know RF if it bit them in the........ (you fill in the blank).
> >> Further, OET has been gutted.  Save some federal money and close down
> the
> >> FCC.  There would be no major impact to the RF world.  Go the way of CB.
> >>
> >> Dave - WØLEV
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 5:35 PM Randy Farmer <w8fn@windstream.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In Washington. Run by lawyers. Lotsa luck there.
> >> >
> >> > 73...
> >> > Randy, W8FN
> >> >
> >> > On 7/25/2022 1:26 PM, David Eckhardt wrote:
> >> > > And again and again and again and again,...........WHERE IS THE FCC?
> >> ? ?
> >> > ?
> >> > > ? ?  !  ! !! !! !! !!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave - WØLEV
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> >>
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