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Subject: Re: [RTTY] cheating
From: "Gary AL9A" <al9a@mtaonline.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:10:52 -0800
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I always run SO1R and while I have looked at trying to set up a SO2R station 
I doubt it will ever happen.  The technical challenge could eventually be 
overcome, but my main problem is the lack of sufficient real estate to 
support the additional antennas needed for SO2R.  So I content myself with 
doing the best I can each contest and besting my constant nemesis - me!  Try 
not to make too many bone headed mistakes like running QRO into the wrong 
antenna, getting dyslexic at the keyboard and transposing the letters, 
working split the wrong way, etc.  My overall goal is to best my last outing 
in whatever contest it is.  I can't control the weather (wind here in AK), 
the sun spots, the geomagnetic field, and the XYL's ideas of how I should be 
spending my time.  Neither can I control what the SO2R or the multi-multi 
guys are doing.  If I do better than last time great.  If not, try again 
next go round.

73,
Gary AL9A


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: June 14, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] cheating


>
> > If you can sit there and honestly tell this group that an SO2R station
> > does not have a distinct advantage, Fine.
>
> I'm not saying that it is not an advantage although there are single
> radio stations that regularly outscore two radio stations.  A big
> part of the difference is still operator skill - a skilled operator
> can do more if he/she has more resources whether those resources be
> antennas, transmitters, receivers, or computers.  In the end it is
> still HOW the operator uses those resources.
>
> What I am saying is that Radiosport has consistently based entry
> classification not on the number of transmitters, the use of computers,
> or the number/size of antennas but by whether ONE PERSON performed all
> of the operating functions (e.g. single operator) or more than one
> person was involved (e.g., multi-operator).
>
> > There will be operators who will find an advantage one way or another.
> > Having the Varsity squad play the Pro Team shouldn't be one of them.
>
> We're not talking about "teams" here - that would be multi-operator.
>
> Unlike auto racing or yachting, etc. radiosport does not define class
> based on hardware.  Similarly, unlike golf or bowling radiosport does
> not define classes based on experience, age or "handicap."
>
> If you want to define competition based on a system of classes - first
> define the classes starting with antennas and experience.  Since a
> single operator may transmit only one signal at a time and may listen
> to as many receivers as he can reasonably handle, the number of
> available transmitters (and the speed with which one can switch bands)
> should be one of the LAST things considered in defining "classes of
> competition."
>
> Understand, if you choose to redefine radiosport in an auto racing or
> golf model, you are exponentially increasing the cost and effort
> required of contest sponsors (based on the larger number of "classes"
> and the increased opportunity for cheating and thus the increased need
> for policing).  There are many contest sponsors who will simply stop
> sponsoring their events rather than deal with the added cost and
> effort.  As such, a wholesale restructuring of radiosport will probably
> kill it (but then maybe you're an anti-contester who *WANTS* to destroy
> radiosport).
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 6/14/2010 7:10 PM, Michael Haack wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> If you can sit there and honestly tell this group that an SO2R station
>> does not have a distinct advantage, Fine.
>>
>> Then you would have no objection to a Single Operator, Single
>> Transmitter Rule.
>>
>> Certainly would even out the field, And since there is no advantage to
>> be had by having two radios....
>>
>>
>> The distinctions between a SO1R and SO2R are of the same types that
>> cause other sports to create brackets, classes, and power rankings.
>> Its done to allow a fair and reasonable competitive contest for all
>> competitors.
>> There will be operators who will find an advantage one way or another.
>> Having the Varsity squad play the Pro Team shouldn't be one of them.
>>
>>
>> Mike WB9B
>>
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