Correct.
73
Jim W7RY
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Haack
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 10:02 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] Fwd: Re: contest change
In all theory then; One could take the First 3 hours off, Operate a full
straight 24, and then take the last 3 off.
You would have 6 hours off in 2 blocks.
73, Mike WB9B
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [RTTY] contest change
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:37:18 -0400
From: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
To: Gary AL9A <al9a@mtaonline.net>, "rtty@contesting.com"
<rtty@contesting.com>
You can operate longer.....just not in the contest!
Seriously - 8 hours off in a 30 hour contest leaves only 22 possible hours
to operate. You're allowed 24 operating hours - and the 6 off must be
achieved in no more than 2 blocks of off time as defined by the contest
rules.
Al
AB2ZY
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary AL9A
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 9:30 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] contest change
So if I take a single 7 hour break for sleep and then later a 1 hour break
for breakfast or lunch the maximum time I can operate will be 22 hrs?
73,
Gary AL9A
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Kozakiewicz
Sent: July 05, 2013 4:42 PM
To: k0rc@citlink.net ; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] contest change
It's the same basic rule, just stated a different way. Nowhere does it say
that you must take two blocks. Only that the sum of the two longest blocks
must total 6 hours. One of those longest 2 blocks could well be of zero
length. As long as the sum of the longest two is six hours, the rule letter
and spirit is met.
The point of the rule is to concentrate the required downtime into as few
(2) blocks as possible. Not to force you to take a minimum of two and a
maximum of two!
Al
AB2ZT
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC [mailto:k0rc@citlink.net]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 7:57 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Cc: Al Kozakiewicz
Subject: Re: [RTTY] contest change
Sorry but the "no more than two blocks" is stated in the OLD rule, not the
proposed NEW rule.
The NEW rule says the operating time will be calculated by subtracting the
TWO longest blocks of time from the total operating period. If I run 12
hours, take a 6 hour break, and run the final 12 hours, that is only ONE
longest block of time. The log checking software will not find two separate
blocks of off time in that scenario, which is what I was questioning.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
________________________________
On 7/5/2013 10:37 AM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
Living proof of the misunderstanding!
The rule is NO MORE THAN two blocks. Your interpretation after having
stated the rule correctly is that a single 6 hour break is not consistent
with the rule - it is. One block IS no more than two blocks!
The point of the rule is to prevent operating the entire period and meeting
the downtime requirement by stringing together a large number of slow
periods to add up to six hours.
Al
AB2ZY
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Chudek -
K0RC
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 9:40 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com<mailto:rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] contest change
This is the first time I have read the CAC recommendation regarding the ARRL
RTTY RU contest. The key area that needed attention in my opinion was making
the "Two off-periods" requirement understandable. Each year there is a
reflector debate about the meaning of the rule. The original wording was
this:
*2.2. The six hours of off time must be taken in no more than two blocks.*
The new wording recommended by the CAC is this:
*2.2 Operating Time will be calculated using the elapsed time between the
first QSO and the last QSO logged minus the longest two breaks during this
elapsed time where such breaks are a minimum of 30 minutes
each.*
This new wording appears to eliminate one practice used by some operators.
In the past it has been acceptable to take two 3-hour breaks, back to back
with no intervening QSOs.
The way I read it, the new recommended wording eliminates that possibility.
For example, if I work the first 12 hours and then take a 6-hour break, then
work another 12 hours, I have met the maximum 24-hour operating requirement,
but I fail the "longest two breaks of 30 minutes minimum each" requirement.
It appears I would need to make one QSO between my back-to-back 3-hour
blocks of off-times to satisfy the 2-block requirement.
What do you guys think?
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 7/4/2013 7:47 PM, KC4HW/Jim wrote:
On 4 Jul 2013 at 17:00, Dick Wilson wrote:
Your proposal looks a little like info in the Contest Advisory
Committee report dated Jan. 2013.
It appears these changes were discussed and some dismissed w/o
action.
Suggest reading.
73,
Dick
Hey Dick, thanks for the information.
I did read the report, it seems that the CAC did consider the
"UNLIMITED" issue. It was unclear whether those changes will be made
in the rules. Guess we will just have to wait until the rules for
each of the contests are published or revised before the next event.
For everyone else, I really did not know that this information was on
line. Guess I should have--shame on me! Here is a link to the CAC
reports on this issues/changes, if you are interested...
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/20
13/January/Doc_28-%20CAC.pdf
Also at the end of that report is the complete list of the CAC
representatives. So you will know who your contest representative is
in case you have some items that you would like considered.
Jim/KC4HW
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