Hi Stan,
BTW, I operate multiple modes, including, (gasp) SSB (but not Pactor). I
also wonder when the contests will start including the other digital modes
or will it always be just SSB, CW and RTTY?
Maybe you missed the part of the RU rules which states: digital modes
(Baudot RTTY, ASCII, PSK31 and packet - attended operation only)
Perhaps next year your special event station could work a few folks in the
contest .. demonstrate the different digital modes?
Happy New Year,
John GW4SKA / GW0A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Zawrotny" <k4sbz.stan@gmail.com>
To: "pcooper" <pcooper@guernsey.net>
Cc: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FREQUENCY IN USE BY ... (JT65/JT9)
Greetings to all,
This forum has a very focused audience with a limited mindset, whereas the
digital aspect of this hobby is very broad. (How many of you subscribe to
other forums?) RTTY traditionally operates on 20 between 14.080 & 14.100,
a range of .200. But during the contests, everyone seems to think that
they can spread out and take over the entire digital band without regard
to the other digital modes. Thankfully, everyone continues to respect the
PSK31 folks, but the JT65 people, with their one frequency, are now the
enemy? Whatever happened to the DX Code of Conduct? Or is getting that
last few points more important than "Respecting my fellow hams and
conducting myself so as to earn their respect?" Let's give the other guy a
break and QSY like a gentleman.
BTW, I operate multiple modes, including, (gasp) SSB (but not Pactor). I
also wonder when the contests will start including the other digital modes
or will it always be just SSB, CW and RTTY?
And, no, you won't find me in your log this weekend because I gave up my
entire weekend to running a Special Event Station. Out of courtesy, We did
not operate RTTY so as to not cause QRM during the contest.
HNY to all.
Stan, K4SBZ
"Real radio bounces off the sky."
On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:49 PM, " pcooper" <pcooper@guernsey.net> wrote:
Hi all, and a very HNY to you all!
JT65, and JT9, are modes that you can indeed use when RTTY would be
inaudible. I prefer JT65 for no apparent reason, but JT9 is certainly
more efficient, both in terms of bandwidth, and power levels used.
I've been using both (but mostly JT65A) for some while now, and it is
amazing what you can work when the bands are flat.
When I first started, I thought it would be good to join the JT-user
group on Yahoo. It seemed pertinent, and would be useful in finding out
what is good practice.
Well, that was not my experience of that particular group! They were
extremely anti-RTTY, and I when I mentioned that I used both modes, I
ended up with more than a few direct emails that were enough to make me
decide to un-join the group, and quickly!
There are several users that specifically use RTTY during a contest to
tell folk to clear off the JT65 frequencies. They generally won't provide
a callsign, and I saw a couple of users letting others know the best ways
to interfere with RTTY signals.
These are calls I now avoid like the plague when I am using the mode.
OK, I know it is good practice not to interfere with others users of the
band, and it is fair to say that you may often not be able to hear them,
which doesn't mean they aren't there, but these few were very anti-RTTY,
and made very few comments about CW invading "their space" during the
likes of CQWW.
Simply, it is NOT "their space", as digital modes are allocated a space
where you can use whichever mode you choose.
That does not mean I will intentionally get in their way, but they are a
very vociferous lot.
If you have not yet tried either of these modes, then I can recommend
them, as it is an impressive tool.
I've managed VK/ZL and W6/7/VE7 with just 20 watts of JT65 on 10m when
RTTY would simply not work.
The apps by VK3AMA are extremely useful with either, and can me made to
log into your logging software automatically.
At 5 minutes per QSO, it is not a rate mode, but still useful!
There, that's my rant, off my chest, and done with.
73 de Phil GU0SUP
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