On Mar 25, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Tom Osborne wrote:
> I'd have to disagree on that one.  If someone wants to get an antenna for 
> 160, they can do it.  I have seen designs for 160 antennas that are only 33 
> feet tall. 
This story is not about RTTY, but CW:
Up until the 2007 N8S Swains Island DXpedition, I have never in my life worked 
160m.
However, I heard them on 160 with really good SNR.    So, I though... 
reciprocity theory :-).
I have no 160m antenna.  The closest is a HF-2V with elevated radials for 40m 
and 80m (fitting the description of Tom's "33 foot vertical" but without a 
loading coil to match it for 160m).
When I tried it, I could not tune it with either the FT-1000MP's internal 
antenna tuner, or a Ten-Tec 238 manual tuner.  But, with the two of them in 
tandem, I managed to get the Yaesu's PA to see an SWR of less than 3.0:1.  
After a few diditdahdahdidit from N8S, they finally got my callsign correctly.  
I have never dared tried the same stunt after that, so the N8S QSO remains my 
one and only 160m QSO.
I am guessing that I was probably only getting a couple of percent efficiency, 
so the other 90+ watts has to be heating something up :-).
If DX can be worked with such a set up, a properly built capacitance loaded 33 
foot tall antenna (with a decent counterpoise) will probably do OK.
73
Chen, W7AY
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