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Re: [RTTY] Digital Operators Band Plan Committee - Current thoughts and

To: "'Mark N2QT'" <n2qt@yahoo.com>, <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Digital Operators Band Plan Committee - Current thoughts and status
From: Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:16:27 -0500
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Hi Mark and all,

We assembled a good committee of well qualified folks.  There are several
key points that were agreed on but when it came down to a actual band plan
that's just tough to do over email.   I'll forward key points out in another
email for use.

On good thing that came off this is Ted Rappaport, N9NB is very much on our
side and has posted two excellent FCC filings.   

My attempt at a FCC filing can be seen at:
http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/confirm?confirmation=2014328259130

I am told that the Delta and West Gulf Divisions members have made it very
clear about their opposition to RM-11708.    Unfortunately that's only 2 of
15 divisions so we are a minority.

I'm also told that HQ officials do understand about the robot interference
and that will be addressed.  

So FCC filings are still open, as well as inputs to the band plan committee.
Also please copy your directors and vice directors so they know about your
inputs as your director is the guy who will be voting on the band plan
details. 


Thanks,

Terry





-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mark N2QT
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Terry
Cc: <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Digital Operators Band Plan Committee - Current thoughts
and status

Has the group been able to put together a bandplan recommendation?  I'm at
the point in my comments where I am struggling over what to recommend going
forward.  Once I get past the generalities it gets hard! (And time is
running out).

Mark. N2QT

> On Mar 17, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We are slowly getting organized.   We have been flooded with personal
emails
> and phone calls  and appreciate all of the comments and suggestions.   We
> are certainly open for inputs and right now the feeling is we need to 
> unite and attack this in two ways:
> 
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> 1.       Provide  inputs for the ARRL's Band Plan.  The priority is inputs
> for the ARRL as that is under a time schedule and we have two weeks 
> remaining
> 
> 2.       The other avenue is education.   Here are the proposed  pieces:
> 
> a.       Develop a white paper on both the engineering and deployment
flaws
> of Winlink and other automated digital packet robots.  We have a  two 
> page draft but its need inputs from experts who can make it technically
correct
> and polish it up.   
> 
> b.      Develop a white paper on potential interference from RM-11708 and
> why it needs to be sandboxed into its own sub band.   This needs
development
> from the ground up.   
> 
> c.       Develop a short white paper documenting the percent of automated
> packet users versus legacy SSB, CW and RTTY modes.   There was a post to
the
> reflector from a KH6 as I recall that had some numbers.  That needs to 
> be documented with supporting data and published.
> 
> d.      Develop a Power Point presentation along  the lines of "Spectral
> Defense - Dangers from Within".     There we talk about the bottom end of
40
> meters that's shared between CW, RTTY and SSB and talk about the
> interference to the FT5 DX-Expedition by unattended packet.   Then follow
up
> a view of the spreadsheet shows the "mine field" of unattended packet
> stations that are there and just waiting to QRM you.   Other slides would
> discuss the bending of the rules / legality,  Spectrum grab,  IARU 
> concerns about automated robot spectrum grab, a slide from a Emergency 
> Coordinator that rejected Winlink for his two Texas counties due to speed,
and the
> request for 15% of the spectrum band.    
> 
> e.      We also need a 5 minute u-tube video demonstrating Winlink showing
> that it takes 5 minutes of actual air time to transmit a simple one line
> message.   
> 
> 
> 
> After the education content is complete, we need help from everyone on 
> this reflector to share the educational information with ARRL officials,
other
> reflectors, clubs and anyone who will listen.    I have requested a slot
to
> do a presentation at the Central Texas DX and Contest Club and also 
> plan do a presentation at the Temple Amateur Radio Club.  I am 
> scheduled for a 30 minute talk at HamComm hamfest in Dallas on N1MM 
> Contesting Software and I'll certainly hijack a few minutes out of that
talk to discuss the above
> content and concerns and how folks can help.     
> 
> 
> 
> In the last few days, there has been daily calls with John Stratton - ARRL
> Vice Director West Gulf Division.   The information is also being passed
to
> our Director.  With the proper content we can start a education program
with
> all league officials expressing all of our  concerns.     We have good
data,
> we have the majority we just need to organize and get the word out.
> 
> 
> 
> We need volunteers to help on the white papers.   I have someone in mind
> that not only has superior technical skills but is also  well  respected
> both at ARRL HQ and across the world.   I sure hope he volunteers. 
> 
> 
> 
> There are a few ideas that we consider nuclear options that are 
> definitely off the table for now.  There are other thoughts and  ideas are
coming in
> that are very useful.    Thanks for all of the inputs.    
> 
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> Terry AB5K
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