I guess the ARRL doesn?t take much stock in their "Considerate Operator
Guide" http://www.arrl.org/considerate-operator
Gary Mitchelson
NC3Z Davidsonville, MD FM18
http://www.mitchelson.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich,
W4TV
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 14:53
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] What is this auto mode that QRM's me?
Does anyone else see something inherently *wrong* about stinklink
monopolizing every frequency from 3565 - 3600 KHz? And now ARRL wants to
allow those channels to expand to nearly 3 KHz each!
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 3/30/2014 1:14 PM, Terry wrote:
> Here is a list of 80 meter Winlink frequencies:
>
>
> VE1YZ 3,565.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
> VE1YZ 3,565.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> WG3G 3,569.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> CIW930 3,571.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
> VE7SCC 3,571.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
> WB9FHP 3,575.500 KHz WINMOR 500
> N9LOH 3,579.200 KHz WINMOR 500
> N4MEH 3,580.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> AB7AA 3,582.500 KHz Pactor 1,2
> AB7AA 3,582.500 KHz WINMOR 500
> W5SEG 3,584.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> W5SEG 3,584.500 KHz WINMOR 500
> RT9K 3,585.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
> RT9K 3,585.000 KHz Robust Packet
> K9BBS 3,585.000 KHz WINMOR 500
> KB5OZE 3,585.000 KHz WINMOR 500
> RT9K 3,585.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> KF7RSF 3,585.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> SL5ZXP 3,585.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
> KF7RSF 3,585.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
> SL5ZXP 3,585.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
> K9BBS 3,586.500 KHz Pactor 1,2
> K7EK 3,587.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> K7EK 3,587.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> N0IA 3,587.200 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> N0IA 3,587.200 KHz WINMOR 1600
> WA6TVD 3,587.500 KHz Pactor 3
> WA6TVD 3,587.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
> K5AEA 3,588.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> K5AEA 3,588.500 KHz Robust Packet
> K5AEA 3,588.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
> AB7AA 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 3
> KK5AN 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 3
> KQ4ET 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> N7YRT 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> WL7CVG 3,589.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> AB7AA 3,589.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> KQ4ET 3,589.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> WA7ODN 3,589.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
> KN6KB 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 3
> N0IA 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> V51PJ 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 1,2
> W0MAC 3,590.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> KN6KB 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> N0IA 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> W0MAC 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> W6SH 3,590.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> CIW931 3,590.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> K7ODN 3,591.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> N5SSH 3,591.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> XE2BNC 3,591.700 KHz Pactor 3,4
> XE2BNC 3,591.700 KHz WINMOR 1600
> KE7XO 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 3
> KR4MA 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> W0MAC 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> WE9COM 3,592.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> KE7XO 3,592.000 KHz Robust Packet
> KE7XO 3,592.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> W0MAC 3,592.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> W7ODN 3,593.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> WX4J 3,593.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> WX4J 3,593.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> K0SI 3,594.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> KE5VRO 3,594.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> KA7HRC 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> KB5HCD 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 3
> KC4TVO 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> KL7EDK 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> LA3F 3,595.000 KHz Pactor 1,2
> KL7EDK 3,595.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> LA3F 3,595.000 KHz WINMOR 500
> N5TW 3,596.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> N5TW 3,596.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> K1SGA 3,596.020 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> OH2AV 3,596.500 KHz WINMOR 1600
> K7DAV 3,597.000 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> K7DAV 3,597.000 KHz WINMOR 1600
> DB0ZAV 3,597.500 KHz Pactor 1,2
> DB0ZAV 3,597.500 KHz WINMOR 500
> LA3F 3,597.900 KHz Pactor 1,2
> W1EO 3,597.900 KHz Pactor 1,2,3
> LA3F 3,597.900 KHz WINMOR 500
> W1EO 3,597.900 KHz WINMOR 1600
> W4CPG 3,598.000 KHz Robust Packet
> OE6XPD 3,598.500 KHz Pactor 1,2,3,4
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Flanders
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:32 AM
> To: Shoppa, Tim; rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] What is this auto mode that QRM's me?
>
> At 12:20 PM 3/30/2014, you wrote:
>> With all the Winlink and RM-11708 talk going around, I have a question.
>>
>> When I contest especially on 80M RTTY band (also occurs other bands,
>> but most frequently on 80M RTTY band, may be weighted by the fact
>> that I like 80M the most!) I am often QRM'ed by some sort of
>> automatic digital mode.
>>
>> This auto mode is characterized by two sides chirping at each other,
>> one side typically is "longer" than the other. The short chirps are
>> just a second or so, the longer chirps are several seconds.
>>
>> Bandwidth is similar or broader than RTTY but it is not RTTY.
>>
>> I think this is some sort of ALE mode or HF packet, but don't know if
>> it's Winlink.
>>
>> It most frequently comes up on me after I've been running on a freq
>> for
>> 10 or 20 minutes or even more.
>>
>> I know that this auto mode "sees me" because if I pause, it switches
>>from "short chirps", to the long chirps. So clearly this auto mode
>>sees me on the frequency and knows the frequency isn't clear, but is
>>trying to carry on nevertheless.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar? I am on east coast US and I'm pretty sure
>> this is some sort of ALE mode (unsure which one) and I'm 100% sure
>> there's no human at either end.
>>
>> Tim N3QE
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> A guess: The long chirps when you pause probably means that it could
> not transfer data while you were txing, but took advantage of your
> stopping to transfer it. I suspect it would give up after a few
> minutes if it could not complete the transfer, but i might be wrong.
> If the rx station doesn't receive valid data, it requests a repeat
> (the short chirp). the tx station then tries again with the long
> chirp. When you went qrt, the rx station received all OK, and stopped
requesting repeats.
> Don't know what mode.
>
> Jerry W4UK
>
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