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Re: [RTTY] BARTG HF Contest 2015 Preliminary Results

To: "'Phil Sussman'" <psussman@pactor.com>, "'Simone Wilson'" <m0box@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] BARTG HF Contest 2015 Preliminary Results
From: "Ed Muns" <ed@w0yk.com>
Reply-to: ed@w0yk.com
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 09:43:43 -0700
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Interesting perspective.  Mine is different.

Contests provide high activity for anyone to enjoy.  In fact, the majority
of unique calls worked in a contest are stations who are self-professed
"non-contesters".  They are simply taking advantage of the contest period to
operate their station for whatever their personal reason(s) may be.  Most of
these non-contesters do not submit a log to the contest organizer.  They
need not be concerned with log checking or contest results.  They can
certainly participate without even keeping a log.  They can enjoy the
contest period on their own terms, without a computer, logging software,
formatted log, web site submission, etc.

The minority of contest participants are the so-called contesters who range
from casual to serious interest in the competition itself.  They all benefit
from QSOs with the non-contesters.  It's a win-win for everyone.

The contest rules are designed to help us measure our operating skill.  We
score our operating session by multiplying the number of QSOs by the number
of different QTHs (or other things like call prefixes) contacted.  We can
keep our results private by submitting a Checklog or not submitting at all.

Log checking is entirely voluntary.  Our log is only checked if we choose to
submit it to the organizer.  The benefit of submitting our log is learning
what our errors were and thinking about how to improve our operating skills
to simultaneously increase our score while decreasing the errors in the
information exchanged.

RTTY operators with very diverse interests can all enjoy the benefits of
contests on their own (different) terms.

Ed W0YK

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Phil N8PS wrote:

I read this post with a degree of nostalgia and note the migration of  
RTTY contests into the realm absolute auditing.

In RTTY today:

You can't participate in a contest unless you own a computer.
You can"t participate in a contest unless you own logging software
You can't participate in a contest unless you send a formatted log.
You can't participate in a contest unless you submit your log to a web site.
You can't participate in a contest unless others send logs with your  
call in it.
You can't participate in a contest unless your log is computer scanned.
You can't participate in a contest unless your log is computer accepted.

So, what does this mean? Is each and every contact subject to verification.
What if someone (even rare) works in a contest, but does not send a log.
And don't think of submitting a paper log, even if you don't own a computer.

The hew and cry is accuracy and the avoidance of fraud. Yet, certainly  
today it
is possible to 'beat' this system. All you need is three or four different
log submissions that track each other. You don't even need several people,
just a big computer with the capacity to flood the system with false calls,
false logs and full of false contacts, even with other active participants.
That would undercut even valid log entries.

Contesting used to be fun and based upon trust. That trust no longer exists
in favor of a robot that processes your original log into a consistent form
right for adjudication. Are robots trustworthy? After all, garbage in  
= garbage
out.

I still run RTTY, but don't count on me for contest points. You'll only be
disappointed.

73 de Phil - N8PS




Quoting Simone Wilson <m0box@btinternet.com>:

> CQ Contest,
>
>
>
> Preliminary Contest Log analysis of the 2015 BARTG HF Contest has been
> completed. Adjudication has now entered the enquiry phase and to aid I
have
> published preliminary results. You will find them at this address
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/opezrbn
>
>
>
> The results shown here are DRAFT. They are the result of the initial
> automatic adjudication process. They are NOT the final results. Positions
> can and will change once proper analysis of the issues is made.
>
>
>
> These are posted for your information and so you may download your
> individual UBN. If you see any problem that you wish me to investigate
then
> please email me.
>
>
>
> You will have received an email from the robot when you submitted your log
> highlighting the errors it found in the log you submitted. I have had to
> delete several logs that do not conform to the required exchange data
> (usually missing fields) which renders them useless for cross checking
> purposes.
>
>
>
> If you need to modify and resubmit your log in light of the UBN data,
please
> email me to advise you need to modify your log and I will then respond. I
> will send your log back to you that is the one the robot has given to me.
> The robot processes your original log into a consistent form right for
> adjudication.
>
>
>
> To request a copy of your log for modification or for any matters arising
> from the UBM data for your entry, please email me at logs@bartg.org.uk
> <mailto:logs@bartg.org.uk>  only. Emails to this email address will NOT be
> answered.
>
>
>
> No new log submissions will be accepted.
>
>
>
> Concerning the BARRTG 2014 HF Contest Results, adjudication is now
complete
> and awaits only the allocation of award certificates prior to publication,
> these being downloadable fron the results page itself. I expect to make an
> announcement in the next two weeks.
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 de Simone. M0BOX
>
> BARTG Contest Manager
>
>
>
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