Isn't that wonderful.
All the clever programmers and top end PCs can't be made to work as well as
a 70 years old machine.
So BARTG should change the rules ????????????
John GW4SKA
(writing personally and not with BARTG hat on)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>
To: "rtty-contesting.com" <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] BARTG HF Contest 2015 Preliminary Results
This thread illustrates a fundamental flaw with the exchange that should
be fixed.
I'm sure this wasn't a problem when the BARTG RTTY was conducted using
actual teleprinters (emphasis on the "printer") and paper logs.
Computers and automation have created a problem where there was none
before. Normally you would assume that the log of the originator would be
the authority of what facts were sent. Ideally, If they logged their
exchange incorrectly, they should pay a penalty. But that is impossible
to ascertain because of misuse, misunderstanding or incompetence. I
believe strongly that contests should be adjudicated simply and based
solely on the data submitted. Data elements should not be inferred from
some out-of-band information like an RBN, or exchange elements falling
within a tolerance level. If you can't readily determine a fact (e.g. time
sent) in an absolute sense and with a high degree of certainty from the
data submitted by the participants, then there is no point in exchanging
that fact. It subtracts value.
The time element of the BARTG exchange should be discarded in favor of
something inherently idiot proof.
Al
AB2ZY
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ben
Antanaitis - WB2RHM
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:09 PM
To: rtty-contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] BARTG HF Contest 2015 Preliminary Results
On 05/09/2015 you wrote:
If the user used the {TIME2} macro in their strings then the time sent and
logged and outputted in the cab file should be the same and nothing for
them has changed at all before during and after the contest. If the user
did not use the {TIME2} macro (Their own fault for not reading the setup
instructions.) Then their time sent was probably going to be different.
Hope this answers all the questions..
73 Rick N2AMG
Rick,
Thanks, for taking your time to answer my questions. You explanation
reassures me that my log, contest transmissions, and Cab data are all
accurate, since I used {TIME2} where appropriate.
Thanks also, for all the time you and the team have invested in the
N1MM+ upgrade.
73,
Ben - WB2RHM/4
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