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Subject: [RTTY] N1MM Exch Message when using ESM?
From: RLVZ--- via RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
Reply-to: RLVZ@aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:46:07 -0400
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Hi Guys,
 
Thank You to everyone who responded to my N1MM Logger+ ESM question.   In 
the future, I will try to do as you say and watch to make sure Logger+ is  
"cycling thru the 3 stages" before I press the Enter key.
 
73,
 
Dick- K9OM
 
 
 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. N1MM Exch Message  when using ESM? (RLVZ@aol.com)
2. Re: N1MM Exch Message when  using ESM? (Larry Gauthier (K8UT))
3. Re: N1MM Exch Message  when using ESM? (Richard Ferch)
4. Re: N1MM Exch Message when  using ESM? (David  Levine)


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Message:  1
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:11:50 -0400
From: RLVZ@aol.com
To:  rtty@contesting.com
Cc: rlvz@aol.com
Subject: [RTTY] N1MM Exch Message  when using ESM?
Message-ID:  <3c78c2.18567794.44bdb106@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Guys,

I was going to post my question on  the N1MM logger+ Digital reflector,  
but 
since Don brought up a  related subject, and since rtty@contesting  .com is 
easier for me to  post messages on, I'd like to ask the following  question 
about N1MM  Logger+:

For this weekends NAQP-RTTY Test, I was using N1MM Logger+  V.1.0.5785.0  
(which I believe is the latest version) and using  ESM.  ESM worked  
flawlessly 
when running stations.  But  while hunting MULTS in  S&P mode I frequently 
had problems.   After entering the other stations  Callsign in the Callsign 
field and  pressing "Enter" the first time, ESM would  always send my 
Callsign  
just as it should.   But after filling the logging fields with  the proper 
received message  and then pressing "Enter" the second  time in order to 
send 
my  exchange and automatically log the Qso,  about 30% of the time  Logger+ 
sent my Callsign again rather than  sending my report and logging  the Q.  
That 
really messed me up  and may have cost  me logging some Q's because of it.  
So I'm  wondering if  anyone else experienced a  similar problem?   

Thanks & 73,
Dick- K9OM    



In a message dated 7/17/2016 11:16:18 A.M. Central Daylight  Time,  
rtty-request@contesting.com writes:

Message:   1
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:58:33 -0500
From: "Don Hill AA5AU"   <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
To: "'RTTY Reflector'"   <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: [RTTY] N1MM Exch Message when  using  ESM?
Message-ID:   <000d01d1dfb5$950bfb00$bf23f100$@net>
Content-Type:  text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

OK, I give up. How do your  properly set up  your F2 (EXCH) RUN message when
using ESM?

I  want to send the other  station's callsign ONCE with my report starting  
on
a new  line.

Thanks,
Don   AA5AU



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Message: 2
Date:  Mon, 18 Jul 2016 06:23:19 -0400
From: "Larry Gauthier \(K8UT\)"  <K8UT@charter.net>
To: <RLVZ@aol.com>,     <rtty@contesting.com>
Cc: <rlvz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY]  N1MM Exch Message when using ESM?
Message-ID:  <0550F7CFA86C4ACEB35BD60A2D271EE1@K8UTPC>
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reply-type=original

Dick,

I have not experienced the problem you  described, but it sounds as if it 
is 
related to N1MM's cycle though the  three stages of an S&P ESM QSO. Watch 
the 
highlighted Function Key  buttons to make sure the Entry Window has 
advanced 
to the next  stage:

Stage #1. F4  CALL HIM - Enter sends the MyCallKey message  when the 
callsign 
field is empty or contains a legitimate  callsign

Stage #2 F8 AGAIN? - Enter sends the AgainKey message when the  exchange 
field(s) does not contain a valid contest exchange. (NOTE: This  stage is 
bypassed when the "contest" rules do not require an exchange -  for example 
a 
DX dxpedition contest)

Stage #3. F2 EXCHANGE and  LOG-IT - Enter sends the ExchangeKey message and 
logs the QSO

The  key to debugging your problem will be in identifying proper stage  
sequencing in the Entry Window.

-larry (K8UT)
-----Original  Message----- 
From: RLVZ--- via RTTY
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 12:11  AM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Cc: rlvz@aol.com
Subject: [RTTY] N1MM Exch  Message when using ESM?

Hi Guys,

I was going to post my question  on the N1MM logger+ Digital reflector,  but
since Don brought up a  related subject, and since rtty@contesting  .com is
easier for me to  post messages on, I'd like to ask the following  question
about N1MM  Logger+:

For this weekends NAQP-RTTY Test, I was using N1MM Logger+  V.1.0.5785.0
(which I believe is the latest version) and using ESM.   ESM worked 
flawlessly
when running stations.  But while hunting  MULTS in  S&P mode I frequently
had problems.  After entering  the other stations  Callsign in the Callsign
field and pressing  "Enter" the first time, ESM would  always send my 
Callsign
just as  it should.   But after filling the logging fields with the  proper
received message  and then pressing "Enter" the second time in  order to 
send
my  exchange and automatically log the Qso, about 30% of  the time  Logger+
sent my Callsign again rather than sending my report  and logging  the Q. 
That
really messed me up and may have  cost  me logging some Q's because of it.
So I'm wondering if   anyone else experienced a  similar problem?

Thanks &  73,
Dick- K9OM



In a message dated 7/17/2016 11:16:18 A.M.  Central Daylight Time,
rtty-request@contesting.com  writes:

Message:  1
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:58:33  -0500
From: "Don Hill AA5AU"  <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
To:  "'RTTY Reflector'"  <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: [RTTY] N1MM  Exch Message when using  ESM?
Message-ID:   <000d01d1dfb5$950bfb00$bf23f100$@net>
Content-Type:  text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

OK, I give up. How do your  properly set up  your F2 (EXCH) RUN message when
using ESM?

I  want to send the other  station's callsign ONCE with my report starting  
on
a new  line.

Thanks,
Don   AA5AU

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Message: 3
Date: Mon,  18 Jul 2016 10:28:59 -0400
From: Richard Ferch  <ve3iay@gmail.com>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY]  N1MM Exch Message when using ESM?
Message-ID:
<CAJ-xeHmwnE_LU4BSJ0v5snLUhsMEDZTRjX9HaiMvXX8+rOPj_g@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Dick,

I have been caught by something  similar from time to time. The key is to be
aware of where the ESM focus  is. It is not always where you think it is,
especially if you have to make  any corrections to prefilled exchange data,
and that can throw things  off.

I believe the problem you experienced arises because the typing  focus moves
when you use the mouse to overwrite a prefilled exchange  element (prefilled
either from a previous QSO or from a Call History file),  or (if I have
remembered this correctly) when you just enter exchange data  into an empty
exchange box using the mouse. This focus movement is useful  if the element
you entered or corrected was the name (it moves the focus to  the state so
you can enter or correct it in turn). However, if the  prefilled state was
wrong and you corrected it by clicking on the received  state, or if you
have just entered the state into an empty exchange by  clicking on the
received state, after doing that the typing focus  automatically moves to
the next box, which in this case is the call sign  box. When the focus is on
the call sign box in S&P, ESM will send the  F4 message, which is not what
you want.

Therefore after correcting  or entering the state by clicking in the receive
window, if you see that  the typing focus is in the call sign, or
equivalently that ESM highlight is  on F4, you need to move the focus from
the call sign back into the  exchange. The easiest way to do this is with
the Space bar. Once you do  this, ESM will send the TU (F3) message and log
the contact when you press  Enter.

73,
Rich VE3KI


K9OM wrote:

For this  weekends NAQP-RTTY Test, I was using N1MM Logger+ V.1.0.5785.0
(which I  believe is the latest version) and using ESM.  ESM  worked
flawlessly
when running stations.  But while hunting MULTS  in  S&P mode I frequently
had problems.  After entering the  other stations  Callsign in the Callsign
field and pressing "Enter"  the first time, ESM would  always send my
Callsign
just as it  should.   But after filling the logging fields with the  proper
received message  and then pressing "Enter" the second time in  order to
send
my  exchange and automatically log the Qso, about 30%  of the time  Logger+
sent my Callsign again rather than sending my  report and logging  the Q.
That
really messed me up and may have  cost  me logging some Q's because of it.
So I'm wondering if   anyone else experienced a  similar  problem?


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Message: 4
Date:  Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:19:32 -0400
From: David Levine  <david@levinecentral.com>
To: RLVZ@aol.com
Cc:  rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] N1MM Exch Message when using  ESM?
Message-ID:
<CAGu77J_gVFp5eDbsKW3pJJ+wWrqZYbBn0UFUOTHT7466Y9cz2w@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I experienced this a couple times during the  contest. I don't use the
keyboard much and do it all with the mouse, but  the "Right click=Enter"
option should duplicate the experience.

I  know why it occurs but not what I did to put the cursor into that
position.  It happens when the cursor is in the call sign field when
Enter/Right Click  is sent. I'm not sure what I did when clicking through
the other operators  name/state. I only handled a hair over 300 calls in the
NAQP and it might  have happened 5-8 times. Unfortunately, I'm not watching
the Entry window  but watching the digital window so I'm not sure what I
did, assuming it's  not an application issue, to cause it.

But you aren't alone if that  makes you feel better.

David - K2DSL

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at  12:11 AM, RLVZ--- via RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
wrote:

>  Hi Guys,
>
> I was going to post my question on the N1MM logger+  Digital reflector,  
but
> since Don brought up a related subject,  and since rtty@contesting  .com 
is
> easier for me to post messages  on, I'd like to ask the following  
question
> about N1MM  Logger+:
>
> For this weekends NAQP-RTTY Test, I was using N1MM  Logger+ V.1.0.5785.0
> (which I believe is the latest version) and using  ESM.  ESM worked
> flawlessly
> when running stations.   But while hunting MULTS in  S&P mode I frequently
> had  problems.  After entering the other stations  Callsign in the  
Callsign
> field and pressing "Enter" the first time, ESM would   always send my
> Callsign
> just as it should.   But  after filling the logging fields with the proper
> received  message  and then pressing "Enter" the second time in order to
>  send
> my  exchange and automatically log the Qso, about 30% of the  time  
Logger+
> sent my Callsign again rather than sending my  report and logging  the Q.
> That
> really messed me up and  may have cost  me logging some Q's because of it.
> So I'm  wondering if  anyone else experienced a  similar  problem?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Dick-  K9OM
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/17/2016 11:16:18  A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> rtty-request@contesting.com  writes:
>
> Message:  1
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016  17:58:33 -0500
> From: "Don Hill AA5AU"   <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
> To: "'RTTY Reflector'"   <rtty@contesting.com>
> Subject: [RTTY] N1MM Exch Message when  using  ESM?
> Message-ID:   <000d01d1dfb5$950bfb00$bf23f100$@net>
> Content-Type:  text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
>
> OK, I give up. How  do your properly set up  your F2 (EXCH) RUN message 
when
> using  ESM?
>
> I want to send the other  station's callsign ONCE  with my report starting
> on
> a new  line.
>
>  Thanks,
> Don  AA5AU
>
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