Matt,
Go to http://secc.contesting.com/SECC.xls . That is the secret file on the
website sever for members only that has complete roster info....
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Lee, K4AQ" <Matt@HiWAAY.net>
To: "'secc'" <secc@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: Membership List;ARRL Contest Circle (was: RE: [SECC] Correction -
Club CompetitionRules)
>
> I would also like to have a membership list, preferably in MS Excel
> format.
>
> Would it be "safe" in a MEMBERS ONLY section on the website? UserID and
> Password would be required to access the subdirectory for this info.
> Webmaster?
>
> I see no reason why a "moving circle" can't work. I would think that the
> intent is to localize the participants...but that might be too logical
> for the ARRL?
>
> If we didn't have to define the center of our circle to the ARRL, I'd
> just keep quiet and move the circle based on our interpretation of the
> definition.
>
> Also, is the radius defined as statute or nautical mile? If none were
> stated, I'd use NM instead of SM.
>
> --
> Matt Lee, K4AQ
> Atlanta, GA USA
> <K4AQ@arrl.net>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: secc-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:secc-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K4SB
> > Sent: Wednesday, 08 September, 2004 14:33
> > To: secc
> > Subject: Re: [SECC] Correction - Club Competition Rules
> >
> >
> > John Laney wrote:
> > > The 175 mile "circle" is thus much more important than I
> > had given it
> > > credit for being. Ed, K4SB, has done some work in the past
> > on moving
> > > the circle. I think there is probably a general consensus that we
> > > should try to move the top of the circle down so the circle
> > includes all
> > > of North Ga, but as little of TN and NC as possible and see
> > if we can
> > > still include all our SC members and see if we can include
> > AL members
> > > such as K4WI and KS4YT/KV4T, and GA members such as KT4ZB and W4BQF.
> >
> > The software for this is written, and is accurate to within 1/10000th
> > of a mile.
> >
> > KS4YT/KV4T already are well within the circle as it presently stands.
> > ( 166.0539 miles ) and will not be a factor in extending the circle to
> > the SE by a few miles since they are almost exactly due West of the
> > circle center. However, on a NE-SW path, W4OC is the controlling
> > factor with regard to K4WI. They live exactly 12.0123 miles too close
> > to each other. Even moving the circle so that W4OC is exactly at 175
> > miles, still leaves a 6+ mile gap with Cort. Someone has to move.
> >
> > As far as other members go, the problem is that in spite of repeated
> > requests, I DO NOT have a full roster of the SECC, not even an old
> > one. Now, it's easy enough to input the data for KT4ZB and W4BQF. But
> > who is then being left out? And if a realignment is done, based on the
> > above, it could well move a member outside the circle. I believe it is
> > written in stone that no member presently in the circle who has
> > fulfilled his "obligations" with respect to score submission may be
> > removed.
> >
> > Here, some problems may be solved by removing some of the ones who do
> > not participate.
> > And I wonder what the legality would be if the circle was shifted on a
> > contest by contest basis? Let's say that W4OC will not participate in
> > the ARRL CW SS ( in which case, I will kill him!! ):> ) Would it then
> > be legal and/or possible to shift the center of the circle some xx
> > number of miles to the SE, thus picking up K4WI, while retaining
> > everyone else. I see no reason this could not be done, but again, it
> > would in all likelihood require an amendment to the C&BLs. And of
> > course, the controlling factor would have to be an email from W4OC
> > stating that he will not participate in a particular ARRL test. Keep
> > in mind that ONLY the ARRL tests have the 175 mile limit. And the same
> > may be true in picking up some of our SC members.
> >
> > Again, the software is written and it has been tested thoroughly.( a
> > point directly N of the Equator at the same longitude must be a factor
> > only of the difference in Latitude, corrected for shortening ) ( the
> > equation is similar in Longitude since we are in a relatively small
> > difference in Latitude ) But I simple must have a full membership
> > roster.
> >
> > I have also considered the idea of suggesting the Club petition the
> > ARRL to restructure their definition of the circle. To group a Club
> > defined as "medium" with a club whose 175 mile circle may very well
> > encompass several States, is in my opinion biased.
> >
> > Anyway, that's the way it is now. BTW, I really have enjoyed reading
> > the "histories" submitted. Who ever came up with that idea deserves
> > 100 "attaboys".
> >
> > 73
> > Ed
>
>
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