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Subject: [SECC] Fw: Re: CW Sweepstakes Final Update - All Members
From: kj4ex at yahoo.com (Bill Wilson)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:18:11 -0700 (PDT)
Good Evening Again SECC,
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As a relatively new member, but long time Op and part time contester, I like 
what I have seen so far of the SECC.? Great comraderie, and an apparent 
leadership that gives a lot of time and effort to support the organization.
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Just a thought, plaques are nice, but with the economy, time, etc., etc., would 
the SECC membership consider Certificates instead, maybe with a few Plaques 
along the way for the major (classify that Bill ?) events.
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Thanks for everything you all do.
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Bill Wilson - KJ4EX

--- On Thu, 11/4/10, N4YT <bob at n4yt.com> wrote:


From: N4YT <bob at n4yt.com>
Subject: Re: [SECC] CW Sweepstakes Final Update - All Members
To: "Greg Potter" <gregpotter at charter.net>
Cc: "NA4bw at bellsouth.net" <NA4bw at bellsouth.net>, "<secc at 
contesting.com>" <secc at contesting.com>
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 6:11 PM



Well said Greg. I think you hit the nail on the head. I too really enjoy the 
club but like you I have a small low power station so we are not as competitive 
as we would like to be.
The officers and club elders if you will are doing a great job
Bob
N4YT

On Nov 4, 2010, at 20:50, "Greg Potter" <gregpotter at charter.net> wrote:





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Hi Folks,
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I am not sure how to say this exactly.? It is always dangerous because my 
fingers sometimes move faster than my brains.
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Let's start by saying that?I THINK THE CLUB OFFICERS ARE DOING A?GREAT JOB and 
this is a super contest club.? Joining the SECC is one of the best moves I ever 
made in ham radio.? It is pure fun and the friendly, but sometime intense 
competition is invigorating!? (Several club members beat me out in this last 
contest...:)?& every preceeding one)
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Now on the subject of plaques.? I am sometimes embarassed by some of the really 
nice looking hardware that gets handed out.??The fact is that not all of us 
have a lot of money floating around these days.? Many are retired or 
approaching retirement and with the way the country has appeared to be 
heading,? things have been just too uncertain around here for some folks to be 
able to sponsor plaques.
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I love the competition and the sheer fun of contesting.? The plaques are 
beautiful, but I just like seeing my call come up in the totals and knowing I 
made a contribution to the club score and that I?didn't do too bad for a 
beamless, ampless puny peanut whistle station.? I recently received a very nice 
packet of GA QSO party certificates for my mobile operation in GQP.? It was 
really nice, but I was a little embarrassed to think that someone had to spend 
all that time on them and then pay to mail them to me.? All that aside, there 
is still nothing better than one of the veteran superstars taking a minute to 
send a "nice score" email if it is warranted.
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Participation will pick up.? My humble opinion is that quite a few folks will 
not committ because they don't want to make committments they are not 100% sure 
they can keep.? Life keeps getting in the way.? Maybe some "part time 
accolades" are something to think about for folks that just cannot commit to a 
full contest.? 
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I would hope that?all of our current club officers?know they?are doing just 
fine!? WE LOVE THE CLUB AND WE LOVE THE JOB YOU ALL ARE DOING!? Keep putting 
out those totals,? post them where they can be seen and then sit back and relax 
until the next contest starts.? Take it easy and have some fun.? I applaud your 
efforts and the dedication of those willing to donate plaques, but my gut 
feeling is most folks are just having fun.? 
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Oh one last thing.? When ?a chance to compete with another club presents 
itself, it certainly gets my blood stirring. That NAQP gig was a real hoot!
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Thanks folks!
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73 de Greg NM2L
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-----Original Message-----
From: secc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:secc-bounces at contesting.com] On 
Behalf Of Ralph K1ZZI
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:09 AM
To: secc at contesting.com
Cc: NA4bw at bellsouth.net
Subject: [SECC] CW Sweepstakes Final Update - All Members




SECC Members,
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Six (6) award plaques are sponsored and only 7 people have committed to show up 
for Sweepstakes CW. ?Your officers have tried to put together a nice internal 
awards program to stimulate participation, however, it has had little positive 
effect. ?
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The officers have discussed participation issues since day one, however, I?m 
sorry to say that it appears that you want simply a place to post your scores 
and little more than that from your club. ?We have 231 members, yet our contest 
participation levels are consistently?below 6%. ?We have asked you for 
ideas/suggestions for the direction you want to see the SECC take, but even 
that has yielded very few responses. Tommy W4BQF asked what you wanted from 
your contest club and because of the lack of feedback, we can only deduce that 
you want a place to post your scores and nothing more. ?We share Tom's 
frustration in getting almost no feedback and little participation from the 
membership.
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We sincerely thank all the plaque sponsors that came forward to help us and we 
are sorry that it did not provide the incentive that we had hoped for. ?

Ralph K1ZZI
SECC VP

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ralph K1ZZI <mailto:k1zzi at comcast.net <mailto:k1zzi at comcast.net> > ?
To: secc at contesting.com <secc at contesting.com> ?
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:54 AM
Subject: Nov 6th CW Sweepstakes - Sponsor Update

We had a very good response from volunteers willing to sponsor plaques for 
SSCW. ?Here are the categories and sponsors:
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Rookie - Contesting 2 years or less - WB4MAK
SOLP Tribander / Wires 40-160 (no yagis) - W4IX
SOLP - K4BAI
SOHP - NA4BW
QRP - NT9K
Unlimited - K1ZZI
????????
????????????????Award Eligibility:


Signup - commit to contest ?and post score ???? 
All SECC members in or out ?of Circle* 
Need minimum of 2 people ?competing per category ??? 
Log 50 QSO's minimum ???? 
Prior 2010 winners limited ?to one plaque annually ??? 
SECC officers not ?eligible
*Unlike the NAQP contest, the club aggregate score cannot include OP's from 
outside the SECC Circle for this contest, ?
however, we still want to provide award eligibility to all our club members 
regardless of your location.
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We will need at least 20 participants to support the investment of six 
sponsors. ??Except for our sponsors there has been practically no response or 
input received from anyone. ?Please reply by Nov 1st if you want to 
participate. ?I will add you to the current big list of (2) contesters!

73,
Ralph K1ZZI
SECC VP
k1zzi at comcast.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ralph K1ZZI <mailto:k1zzi at comcast.net> ?
To: secc at contesting.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: Nov 6th CW Sweepstakes - SECC Get Ready!

Nov 6th - 8th CW Sweepstakes 


One of the favorite contest events of the year! SECC get ready to for some fun 
competition. ??
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One of our members suggested we setup teams for a little extra internal fun. 
?What do you think about that idea? ?Depending on the total number interested 
we could have 4 or 5 people on a team.
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Are you planning to participate in SS CW? ?Would you be interested in joining a 
team? ?Let me know if you are and I will start a list. ?I would like to get 
something going and make this a fun event for everyone. ?We are open for ideas 
and I encourage discussion. ?We could blow the doors off this one and win the 
ARRL Gavel? ?The SECC has won it before so we have the power. ?It's all up to 
you. ?Sign up now! ???
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Wait there's more: ?NA4BW, K4BAI, K1ZZI ?will sponsor one plaque each for SOHP, 
SOLP and "Unlimited". ?How about plaques for QRP, Multi-Op? ?Or can you think 
of another category of interest? ?Oops we will need more sponsors! ?No club 
dues / nothing in the treasury. ?If you are interested in sponsoring a plaque 
for a particular category just let me know. ?Plaques are $20 each and they are 
very nice, first class. ?Same as our NAQP and GQP plaques.
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Ralph K1ZZI
SECC VP
k1zzi at comcast.net
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Complete ARRL SS Rules here: 
?http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%20Packets/2010%20ARRL%20November%20Sweepstakes%20Package.pdf
 <http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest Packets/2010 ARRL November Sweepstakes 
Package.pdf> ?<http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest Packets/2010 ARRL 
November Sweepstakes Package.pdf>????


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ralph K1ZZI 
To: secc at contesting.com 
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:43 PM
Subject: [SECC] ARRL Sweepstakes Contest Overview & Tips



This is an informative?article written by John, K3TN on ARRL Sweepstakes 
Contesting.? ??A good read for all experience levels and some?excellent tips to 
help get you started!!
73, Ralph K1ZZI
History 
The ARRL Sweepstakes has its roots in ?The January Contest? announced in 
December 1929 QST. It was originally structured as a message handling contest 
for hams in Canada and the US (which at the time included Cuba, the Philippines 
and ?Porto Rico?) and ran for two solid weeks in January. A successful two way 
exchange of a minimum ten word message would result in two points for each 
station. The number of message points would be multiplied by the number of ARRL 
sections at the time (68) for the final score. A key rule was ?Participating 
stations will be limited for the purposes of the contest to sending but one 
test message to each station worked; that is, further messages can be 
transmitted but will not add to the contest score of either station.? Thus was 
born the dreaded ?work stations once per band? rule. 
While a lot about the contest has stayed the same over the years, much has also 
changed. Sweepstakes was moved to November in 1932; a separate phone contest 
was added in 1941; and operating time was limited to 24 hours along the way. 
However, for the past half-century not much has changed, other than the ARRL 
section list gradually expanding to its current level of 80. 
Description and Rules Summary 
The ARRL Sweepstakes consists of two contests, one for phone and one for CW, 
that are open to US and Canadian hams only. A summary of the important rules: 
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Contest Period: 
CW: First full weekend in November 
Phone: Third full weekend in November 
Operating Period ? 24 of the 30 hours from 2100Z Saturday to 0300Z Sunday 

Exchange ? Serial Number; Precedence; Your Call; Check; Section 
Where: Precedence = Q (5 watts output or less), A (under 150w), B (above 150w), 
U (Single Op Unlimited), M (Multiop), or S (school station) 
Check = last two digits of the first year of license of the operator or station 
Section ? ARRL/RAC section location of the station. List of standard section 
abbreviations is here 
Duplicate Contacts ? stations can only be worked once per band. 
The full rules can be found here. For any given year substitute the current 
year for ?2009? in that URL. 
Strategies 
Like any contest, selecting the best strategy for Sweepstakes depends on your 
goals. You can play to win in one of many categories or in your section, just 
help out your local club?s score, try to fill in the states you need for 5BWAS 
or just try to see how quickly you can make a Clean Sweep. As long as your 
strategy matches your goal, you are bound to have fun. 

Whatever your goal is, scoring more points is always more fun. Maximizing score 
per hour means the most fun per unit time invested. Look here for some great 
operating tips on maximizing your SS score. 
Equipment 
Station design is always an important starting point. Sweepstakes is a very 
?little gun? friendly contest and doesn?t require huge antenna farms Since SS 
is a domestic contest, low antennas in many cases are preferable. N6BV has some 
excellent pointers on optimizing your antenna choices for SS ? click here. In 
low sunspot years, forty and eighty meters are the ?money bands? in 
Sweepstakes, with 20 meters being the usual workhorse. Near sunspot peaks, 15 
and 10 meters provide wide open spaces for more QSOs. 

Sweepstakes doesn?t have any unique demands on other aspects of station design, 
though the ?work once per band? rule does give a lot of benefit to having a 
second radio. Run rates on Sunday often slow down to glacial speed (especially 
CW SS), and having a second radio to search and pounce between automated CQs 
brings in a lot of extra QSOs. 
If you aren?t planning an extensive effort, you can still get paper forms here 
and log by hand. However, logging contests real time on a computer is just so 
much more efficient ? and green. Just about every popular contest logging 
program supports SS ? check Contest logging software. If you aren?t going to 
use a computer to send CW, the long exchange in SS means at least using a 
memory keyer with an incrementing serial number capability, to maintain your 
sanity. 
Operating Time 
There are all kinds of theories on strategies for selecting the optimal 
operating time periods for SS, but like all contests more hours in the chair 
will always translate to more points. In general, if you are going to put more 
than 12 hours or so into SS being on from the start for the first 8-10 hours is 
key to getting that QSO total up. If you can only put in a few hours, calling 
CQ on Sunday afternoon will bring some nice high run rates since you will be 
fresh meat to all the stations putting in full time efforts. If your goal is to 
maximize points for your club, a common strategy is to operate from one station 
on Saturday and then from another station (with that station?s call) on Sunday 
? basically combining both of the above strategies. 

Common wisdom in Sweepstakes is to let the multipliers come to you ? unless 
your goal is to just get a Clean Sweep, the best strategy is to maximize QSOs. 
For a 100,000 point SS effort, a multiplier is worth about 8 QSOs - spending 
more than 10 or 15 minutes to get that elusive section will basically lower 
your score. But if you just want that Clean Sweep mug, knowing propagation 
paths from your location is the secret sauce: what times/bands will give you 
the short hops to nearby sections and which will provide openings to the 
Pacific or quasi-polar distant sections. Barring entering the unlimited 
category and using packet spotting, working the rare sections that don?t have a 
lot of operators is pretty much just luck of the draw. 
As in any contest, maximizing score means running (calling CQ) as much as 
possible, and SS is one of the easier contests for the average station to find 
and hold a CQ frequency. However, if you did a lot of running on Saturday, 
searching and pouncing on Sunday to find those ?Sunday drivers? will be 
important. 
Sweepstakes Etiquette 
Sweepstakes is a contest that attracts the full spectrum of hams: top operators 
at big stations looking to win, serious contesters looking to beat last year's 
score or come in ahead of their buddies, club members just looking to help the 
club score, and first time contesters just trying this thing out. Just like in 
a marathon running race, that means there are competitors at a wide level of 
capabilities. To deal with that there are some norms of ?etiquette? that have 
evolved to let everyone have the most possible amount of fun. These are not 
hard and fast rules, just common norms that have evolved over the years. You 
won?t be disqualified by going against any of these norms, but by following 
them you will definitely save a lot of whining on CQ-CONTEST after SS is over. 

There many areas where standard contest etiquette applies, but there are also 
some specific norms for SS: 


The exchange in Sweepstakes is complicated on purpose ? Sweepstakes tradition 
comes from traffic handling - this is what makes SS fun and different. Learn 
the exchange before the contest and get comfortable sending and receiving it in 
the expected order. There are basically three scenarios to be comfortable with: 

The CQ Scenario: You will either be calling CQ or answering CQs and following a 
standard protocol will make everything go faster and more smoothly:

K3TN: CQ SS K3TN K3TN SS
W8ABC: W8ABC
K3TN: W8ABC 123 B K3TN 69 MDC
W8ABC: 55 A W8ABC 74 OH
K3TN: TU K3TN SS

Remember, SS is one of those contests where you do not have to send RS(T). When 
you send the exchange the first time, no need to send anything twice ? send it 
once and let the other station ask for a fill if needed. Also, there is no need 
to send ?NR? at the start of your exchange when replying to a CQ, though some 
feel it helps the receiving station get ready to copy the exchange.

Note: Sweepstakes does not require that the station answering the CQ send back 
the CQers call. It is not a bad idea to do so if you think there is any doubt 
who you (W8ABC above) are responding to, such as on a crowded band where 
multiple CQers are ?sharing? a frequency. In that case, W8ABC would reply ?K3TN 
55 A W8ABC 74 OH?

The Fill scenario: Contests are about speed and accuracy, so before you hit 
enter in the log you want to make sure you have the info right. Good operators 
will always ask for a repeat or ?fill? if they missed part of the exchange or 
aren?t 100% certain they copied it right. The generally accepted ways to ask 
for fills are:

CK? ? Please send the Check (last two digits of the first year you were 
licensed) again
NR? ? Please send the serial number again.
PREC? ? Please send the Precedence (A, B, M, U, S, Q) again.
SEC? ? Please send your Section again.
CL? ? Please repeat your call?
AGN or?? ? Please resend the entire exchange again.

It is only really necessary to send the entire exchange if the station sends 
AGN or?? but many operators aren?t familiar with the abbreviations for Check 
and Precedence and so on.?

K3TN: CQ SS K3TN K3TN SS
W8ABC: W8ABC
K3TN: W8ABC 1%& B K3TN 69 MDC
W8ABC: NR?
K3TN: 123
W8ABC: 55 A W8ABC 74 OH
K3TN: TU K3TN SS

If there appears to be any confusion, just resend the entire exchange.

The Dupe Scenario: This is a tricky one. When you are calling CQ and a station 
calls you that you have already worked, in most contests it is just faster to 
work them a second time. However, the long exchange in SS changes that equation 
a bit ? many stations choose to not work dupes and will send ?K3TN B4? or ?K3TN 
QSO B4? or ?K3TN DUPE.? This may or may not be the right thing to do, depending 
on circumstances. N6TR (who manages the log-checking for SS) has made it clear 
that a repeat QSO in one log that is a first QSO in another will not result in 
a penalty to either op. On the other hand, a NIL (not-in-log) QSO, where a QSO 
shown in one log is not even loosely matched in another log, will result in a 
fairly significant penalty. On Saturday evening, when rates are high, it may 
make sense to say "QSO B4" and go on to the next station, because if you are 
not in his log, chances are good that the station will call you again on 
Sunday. On
 Sunday, when rates are low and "fresh meat" is scarce, it makes sense to 
insist that the previous QSO is "not in my log" and say "pse work again". 
You're really doing the other station a favor, and not costing either of you 
much precious time. 

Send the entire exchange! - don't forget, you must send your callsign as part 
of the exchange. 
Cut numbers and leading zeroes: In contests where RST is required, sending 5NN 
is universally recognized to mean 599 ? just as CW is universally recognized as 
an abbreviation for Continuous Wave. However, in SS using cut numbers in the CK 
field (6N instead of 69) or even in the serial number field leads to confusion 
because of the mix of numbers and letters in the exchange. Just avoid cut 
numbers. Similarly, there is no reason to send leading zeroes ? they just 
increase the chance for confusion. 
Use the standard abbreviations for sections on CW and standard phonetics on 
SSB. In Sweepstakes, you are not in ?Maryland? or ?Massachusetts,? you are in 
?Maryland DC (MDC on CW)? or ?Eastern Mass (EMA on CW)" or wherever. You can 
find the list of standard ARRL sections here. Similarly, leave the fun 
phonetics on the shelf for contests ? stick with the ICAO standard phonetics 
found here. 
Send (or say) the exchange in the standard order: number, precedence, your 
call, your check and your section. There's no need to say "precedence", "check" 
or "section" if they are in sequence, making it faster and clearer both for you 
and for the other station. In general, the fewer words the better. 
Don?t repeat what you copied back to the CQer. Especially on SSB, it is 
tempting to say ?Thanks for number 123 B in MDC, you are number ?? Just stick 
to sending your information and everything will move along more quickly. 
Send ?QRL?? or ??? twice to check if a frequency is in use. The long SS 
exchange also means that there will be longer than usual gaps while a CQer is 
listening to someone reply. Just sending ?dit dit? and then hitting that CQ key 
is just rude ? do the right thing and check twice. If you are running stations 
and don?t respond to QRL? checks, the frequency is assumed to be up for grabs. 
A corollary to this principle is? 
Just because you own two radios doesn?t mean you own two frequencies. If you 
are operating SO2R and don?t respond to a legitimate ?double QRL?? because you 
were off on the other radio trying to break the VE8 pileup, that frequency is 
up for grabs. 
Send CW at the code speed of the other operator, or the fastest you are 
comfortable copying ? whichever is lower. If you answer someone CQing at 35 
wpm, but are only able to copy 20 wpm, reply at 20 wpm. If you are sending CQ 
at 35 wpm and someone responds at 20 wpm, slooow down to something near the 
other station?s code speed. Hitting Page Down or twisting the K1EL knob a bit 
isn't that hard. Exceptions: on Sunday, everyone slows down their CQ code speed 
to attract casual operators. Also, if you hear a buddy calling CQ at 20 wpm and 
you know they can copy 35 wpm, call them at the higher speed. Even more fun: 
call him or her at 45 wpm and throw in some cut numbers: "ATN B K3TN 6N MDC" 
Remember: only do this out of love. 


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