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Subject: [TRLog] TRLog in the RTTY Sprint (long)
From: gbaron@home.com (Gil Baron)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:59:29 -0500
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At 09:47 10/15/2001, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:

>On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 02:44:33PM +0100, Clive Whelan wrote:
> >
> > I therefore believe that it was a disaster when the project to
> > port TR to Windows foundered. I hope I am not being too cynical
> > in opining that from that very point TR seems to have stagnated,
> > and I believe there have been no updates since that time. From
>
>The most recent update was 19 August 2001.  See:
>http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html
>
> > the p.o.v. of a life subscriber, that is rather disappointing. I
> > would certainly urge Tree to try to resurrect the Windows
> > project and all of you guys to encourage him so to do.
>
>The proposed port of TR Log to Windows would have been done by W4PC and
>others at Creative Services Software - not by Tree.  W4PC did a little
>research and concluded that TR Log users would not be likely to switch
>from a stable, feature-rich product on a real-time OS to something that
>(at least for a while would be) a developing, feature-poor product on an
>unstable OS.  You could argue that a better market to target would be
>those who are not already invested in TR Log, but nonetheless, that's
>why W4PC claims to have dropped the project.

With WIN XP and WIN2000 it would be just as stable as the DOS version and 
the lack of features you write about could be handled by other programs. 
The Multitasking is a big advantage here.\

Yes, it would probably start out with a lack of some esoteric features or 
TRLOG but if the main features were done it would be used and the market 
would be larger than that of DOS.

It would be better to have a somewhat cut down version for windows and 
still have the program live than have NOTHING which is what we WILL HAVE in 
time. It is unavoidable, TRLOG and most other programs that are DOS only 
will die.

OTOH as I said before, it may not be economically justified to do the 
development. IT would take one like Tree who is not in it only for the 
money. I do believe that TRLOG is a labor of love for Tree as much as 
anything else.



>See:
>http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200105/msg00005.html
>http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200105/msg00057.html
>http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200106/msg00026.html
>
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>Kenneth E. Harker      "Vox Clamantis in Deserto"      kharker@cs.utexas.edu
>University of Texas at Austin                   Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R
>Department of the Computer Sciences         President, UT Amateur Radio Club
>Taylor Hall TAY 2.124                         Maintainer of Linux on Laptops
>Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA            http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/
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At 09:47 10/15/2001, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 02:44:33PM
+0100, Clive Whelan wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I therefore believe that it was a disaster when the project to 
<br>
&gt; port TR to Windows foundered. I hope I am not being too cynical
<br>
&gt; in opining that from that very point TR seems to have stagnated,
<br>
&gt; and I believe there have been no updates since that time. From
<br><br>
The most recent update was 19 August 2001.&nbsp; See:<br>
<a href="http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html"; 
eudora="autourl">http://www.qth.com/tr/revhistory.html</a><br><br>
&gt; the p.o.v. of a life subscriber, that is rather disappointing. I
<br>
&gt; would certainly urge Tree to try to resurrect the Windows <br>
&gt; project and all of you guys to encourage him so to do.<br><br>
The proposed port of TR Log to Windows would have been done by W4PC
and<br>
others at Creative Services Software - not by Tree.&nbsp; W4PC did a
little <br>
research and concluded that TR Log users would not be likely to
switch<br>
from a stable, feature-rich product on a real-time OS to something that
<br>
(at least for a while would be) a developing, feature-poor product on
an<br>
unstable OS.&nbsp; You could argue that a better market to target would
be <br>
those who are not already invested in TR Log, but nonetheless, that's
<br>
why W4PC claims to have dropped the project.<br>
</blockquote><br>
With WIN XP and WIN2000 it would be just as stable as the DOS version and
the lack of features you write about could be handled by other programs.
The Multitasking is a big advantage here.\<br><br>
Yes, it would probably start out with a lack of some esoteric features or
TRLOG but if the main features were done it would be used and the market
would be larger than that of DOS.<br><br>
It would be better to have a somewhat cut down version for windows and
still have the program live than have NOTHING which is what we WILL HAVE
in time. It is unavoidable, TRLOG and most other programs that are DOS
only will die.<br><br>
OTOH as I said before, it may not be economically justified to do the
development. IT would take one like Tree who is not in it only for the
money. I do believe that TRLOG is a labor of love for Tree as much as
anything else.<br><br>
<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>See:<br>
<a href="http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200105/msg00005.html"; 
eudora="autourl">http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200105/msg00005.html</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200105/msg00057.html"; 
eudora="autourl">http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200105/msg00057.html</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200106/msg00026.html"; 
eudora="autourl">http://lists.contesting.com/_trlog/200106/msg00026.html</a><br><br>
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Kenneth E. Harker&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Vox Clamantis in
Deserto&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; kharker@cs.utexas.edu<br>
University of Texas at
Austin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Amateur Radio Callsign: WM5R<br>
Department of the Computer
Sciences&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; President, UT
Amateur Radio Club<br>
Taylor Hall TAY
2.124&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Maintainer of Linux on Laptops<br>
Austin, TX 78712-1188
USA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/"; 
eudora="autourl">http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/</a><br>
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