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Re: [TenTec] 80 meter loops

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] 80 meter loops
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw@Blomand.Net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:19:34 -0600
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To inject a comment, with all respect for Field Day activities, these
represent operation over a few hours as compared to those of us that use the
same antenna or group of antennas day in and day out over a year or two.  I
really don't believe that operation in a "foreign" location with a "new"
antenna is solid basis for antenna performance evaluation.

This is contradictory to the reference that Pete provides regarding the
Hattiesburg ARS results.  To that end I give more credit to the skill of the
operators with regard to FD scores.

73
Bob, K4TAX

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] 80 meter loops


> Stuart, we have also used low horizontal loops for FD - and I think we
could have gotten an award for WAA. Worked All Alabama - or Arkansas - or
Louisana, Georgia, west Tennesse, and the Missouri bootheel. And not a lot
else on the wires. And it's really hard to share a tribander between CW and
SSB stations.
>
> Of course, your vicinity has a lot better soil conditions than our
impermiable clay, where conductivity is officially 2ms and usually measures
less than 1. That surely accounts for some of the difference.
>
> For FD we have had a lot better results with the same amount of wire up as
Vee's or "half rhombics."  Of course they are directional but not so
directional you can't cover North America with three antennas. The first
year we put a pair of Vees and a dipole up for FD at my farm we placed fifth
or sixth in 2A, which isn't bad considering the shortage of operators.
>
> Check the Hattiesburg Amateur Radio Club (W5NA or K5PN) FD results for the
last 10 years or so. It did not matter what the conditions were, or how few
operators we had, we always placed quite well. Whether the ionosphere
cooperated or not.
>
> 73  Pete Allen  AC5E
>
> > Pete, using a greater than one wave 80m loop on 20m band, we have had
more
> > than 500 miles on first skip during Field Day.  This was a horizontal
loop
> > up 20 feet high.  We have used one band loops which are multiwavelength
for
> > 40m, and for 15/10m for several Field Days.  They seem to fill in the
lobes
> > on harmonic bands when the ionospherics are working well.  No
> > directionality.  They work best for us, fed in a corner.   Symmetrical
ones
> > seem to outperform rectangular, or diamond shaped ones.  Of course we
are
> > sitting in Central part of U.S., and have equal shots to both coasts
from
> > our elevated location on a hill.
> > 73,
> > Stuart Rohre
> > K5KVH
> >
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