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Re: [TenTec] Re: [Ten-Tec] Alas, not for me - more

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re: [Ten-Tec] Alas, not for me - more
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 18:55:27 -1000
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Bob Henderson wrote:

On the other hand Ken you are right.  Introducing filters ahead of the A to
D convertor will not improve A-D convertor dynamic range.  The dynamic range
of the A to D convertor will stay exactly as it was.  What will be improved
is the dynamic range of the system.....and that's what we're interested
in......the dynamic range of the receiver not its A to D convertor.

The dynamic range of the front end of a receiver (everything before the "roofing" filter) has to be good regardless of whether the following stages of the receiver are completely "traditional" analog or if they incorporate DSP. If strong signals cause "overload" (meaning distortion, and intermodulation of signals in the front end is producing new products) then the ability to hear weak signals amongst the strong signals is impaired, with either a traditional analog backend or a DSP backend.

Then when the signals that have passed through the roofing filter get to the backend, those stages also have to handle all of the signals that get through. If there is distortion from overdrive, of either analog circuitry or an analog to digital converter, the ability to hear weak signal amongst the strong signals (that have passed through the roofing filter) will be impaired.

Getting better performance by using a narrower roofing filter is not a unique characteristic to DSP radios. It can help with radios that do not have DSP at all. The dynamic range limitations of analog to digital converters in DSP radios may make it neccessary to use narrower roofing filters at lower signal levels than would be necessary in a traditional analog radio. That depends on the dynamic range of the traditional analog backend you are comparing the DSP backend with.

The character of the distortion products generated when an analog system is overdriven can be quite different from when a ADC in a DSP system is overdriven.

Ken , N6KB


Bob, 5B4AGN



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