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Re: [TenTec] tentec 238B or palstar 1500cv ?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] tentec 238B or palstar 1500cv ?
From: <c-hawley@uiuc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:33:27 -0600
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I'm not sure I would call it an "apparent" match. It's just 
that a T network is two L networks back to back. You can 
transform up to some impedance and then down to what you are 
trying to match. How far you are from the input impedance 
with the "intermediate" impedance determines how much more 
circulating current you have in the elements (as opposed to 
a better match which is just what is necessary and not so 
far and away from the input (and output) impedance. There 
are many intermediate impedances. Finding the lowest one to 
suit the match requirements results in the lowest stored 
energy (which is consumed by the elements in the tuner). The 
Pi tuner transforms down and then up. Same issues. Lots of 
other complications such as canceling reactances, etc., but 
this way of thinking about it helps I think.
Having just one L network (has to be reversible) like in the 
238B, makes the job simpler. There is just one setting but 
you need a larger range of values of C and L to do the job 
with just one L network. I mentioned in a previous post that 
the losses might be greater in the single L network over a T 
if the Q of the element is not very high and a large value 
of L (or even C) must be used to obtain a match.
Chuck, KE9UW

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:34:59 -0500
>From: "Thomas Jednacz" <tjednacz@ieee.org>  
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] tentec 238B or palstar 1500cv ?  
>To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" 
<tentec@contesting.com>
>
>Another reason is an L tuner only has one match point. A T 
tuner can have an
>apparent match and a real match. In the apparent match 
condition all the
>energy is going into the tuner and circulating with nothing 
going out the
>feed line. A switchable L tuner (L or C input) can have a 
wider match
>impedance range.
>
>Tom, W7QF
>> 
>> The L network is more efficient by having losses in only 
two 
>> components, an L and C vs. 3 components in the 
conventional Tee tuner.
>
>> 
>
>
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