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Re: [TenTec] LW receiver - did it sound normal?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] LW receiver - did it sound normal?
From: "Mike Hyder -N4NT-" <n4nt_m_o_hyder@charter.net>
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:37:38 -0500
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I wouldn't think the trouble was within the Orion but I'm sure it is 
possible.  My suggestion is that you run an A-B test with another rig and 
see if you get the same mix on 3580 kHz.  That would sorta narrow it down.

When you said that you could hear the other station faintly overlaid with 
the main station from 1460, did that faint one sound normal, too?  The sound 
of the signals is of great help in locating the source of the mixing. 
Another thing to test is if you have an antenna tuner that will peak the 
signal on a frequency.  If the signal on 3580 peaks with the tuner set to 
3580, then the mixing is probably external to the rig because the 
fundamentals will be much attenuated by that tuner but the mix will pass 
right through.  When you can attenuate those fundamentals (as 1460 and 
whatever else), then you almost eliminate any possibility of mixing within 
the Orion.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron" <ron@morell.us>
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] LW receiver - did it sound normal?


Hello Mike,
For the report of signal at 260 KHz, it was completely normal AM sound music
and all.  Did not hear any other station overlaid with it.  Loud and clear
with ten over S9 signal.

I heard another today at 3580 KHz on the Main receiver.  Found one of the
stations at 1460. This time I could detect another station faintly overlaid
with the main station from 1460 KHz.  This signal was still there after
filtering down to 600 Hz with the roofing filters.  Curious to me that these
broadcast stations can hetrodyne up into the amateur bands on this ORION II
even with roofing filters and all that to prevent it.  I find AM broadcast
stations on 160 and 80 quite regularly...  Maybe something is up with my
SG-230 antenna tuner or other anomalies in my antenna system that is
producing these signals and hence the detection of them by the ORION II.  No
way the ORION II is going produce these hetrodynes and detect them in the
amateur bands on the main receiever, right?

Ron  KA7U

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hyder -N4NT-
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:26 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] LW receiver - did it sound normal?


On the signal you received was the modulation normal sounding or distorted
in some way?

Mike N4NT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <ron@morell.us>
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Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] LW receiver


Tom,
Ineresting idea of two AM broadcast stations producing the signal at 260
KHz, but as I did not hear any signal but the 1160 KHz station there, I
think it is probably a product of the IF mixer.  I was using the Sub
Receiver.  It was a 10 over S-9 signal at 260 KHz and a 40 over S-9 signal
at 1160 KHz.  When I get time, and conditions are similiar and I can tune it
in, I'll hook up my old Tuned Receiver Front End Regenerative (RAK-8)
receiver and see what I hear at 260 KHz.  No IF in that old boat anchor.

Thanks for you reply.
Ron KA7U

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:56 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] LW receiver



In a message dated 12/31/2005 10:31:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ron@morell.us writes:

Listening on 260 KHz with my ORION II tonight and heard KSL5 radio in  Utah
which broadcasts on 1160 KHz.  That would be 900 KHz below their  broadcast
frequency.  I'm curious about this and wonder what exactly  I'm listening
to.

Besides, it is time to talk about something besides  headphones... :)
Ron KA7U






I had similar a few weeks ago, and it is possibly "your station" and a
second broadcast station near by proudcing a ifference frequency between the
2
stations and the rig is picking up the combined signal and detecting it at
.260

it is not a harmonic, but could be a difference freq if two strong am
stations are close by.

tom N6AJR
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