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Re: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Mod

To: <geraldj@storm.weather.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Mod
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:52:05 -0600
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Some years ago when working for Sony, we suddenly started having IC socket failures in one of our analog multitrack machines. The problem was identified as failure of the IC sockets used in the analog audio. When questioning the various departments as to why the Augut socket was changed to a different model, the purchasing manager said "well, that was the best IC socket we could buy for under a nickel. We saved some $10,000 per year by making this change". The Augut 800 series was selected as a replacement at a cost of $0.23 each in quantities of 100,000. We had service engineers travel all over the world to replace some 500 pieces in each machine. That's $115 in parts plus about 16 hours labor plus travel expense. That totaled about $1500 per machine and some 350 machines to re-work. So those nickel sockets cost us about $525,000 not to mention the intangible value of unhappy customers.

I'm sure those of us in of have been in manufacturing and or design have like stories about the finance department making engineering decisions. In the case of the 238 tuner components, in likely 75% or more cases the selection of capacitors does not give a problem and thus would seem like a reasonable success factor of probability to proceed with the choice. It is the 25% that causes the grief.

In my case the 238 tuner on one antenna never shows the heating or SWR changing problem regardless of power. On the other antenna on 160M and 75M, watch out as SWR will soar with about 800 watts of carrier or more. Below that, no problem is observed. One of these days I'll change them out to some good quality RF rated caps. Of course in looking at the solution, I would be adding about $65 in cost to tuner as well. That passed along to the customer could equate to a cost increase of $100 or so. That's a lot for a $400 box at retail.

73
Bob, K4TAX




----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@storm.weather.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Mod


On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 19:28 -0800, Ron Castro wrote:
I think the cost calculation was the bigger driving force in that decision!

         Ron  N6IE
      www.N6IE.com

I've heard many an engineer's tale where a quality capacitor was
specified and necessary and purchasing bought something a great deal
cheaper. Sometimes wasting months of engineering time waiting for the
quality capacitor to be made, once management convinced purchasing that
the expensive capacitor couldn't be replaced by a 29 cent part.

73, Jerry, K0CQ

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