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Re: [TenTec] Cheap SSB and not CW rig

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Cheap SSB and not CW rig
From: "GARY HUBER" <glhuber@msn.com>
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:57:02 -0500
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See the latest QST! CW and SSB 5 watt rig for $50!

73,

Gary - AB9M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Brown" <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Cheap SSB and not CW rig


> Is there any validity to the notion that deleting CW functionality from 
> a rig could make it cheaper?
> 
> Let's see, what additional parts are needed to make a SSB capable rig 
> operate in CW mode?
> 
> For receiving:
> 
> Any rig with a BFO and product detector can receive CW. Sure it would be 
> nicer to have some narrower filter options available, and perhaps a 
> faster AGC than when using SSB. The filters could be add on options, but 
> let's include the cost of the PCB space and connectors, and switching 
> diodes necessary to accomodate a narrower filter....No on second 
> thought, lets not include that, because an optional narrow filter could 
> just as easily be used for a narrow SSB filter, so this is not a CW 
> specific additional cost to the rig. And you don't need that filter for 
> basic CW functionality. How about the cost of a switch and a capacitor 
> and resistor for the other AGC speed? Lets say $2.
> 
> For transmitting:
> 
> There are two really simple ways of making an SSB transmitter send a CW 
> signal. One is to have an audio tone generator feed the balanced 
> modulator, and the other is to apply a DC bias to the balanced 
> modulator, unbalancing it and letting carrier through. The second method 
> is probably preferable, requiring fewer parts. The purity of the tone 
> from a tone generator would be very important and might require 
> adjustments or selected value parts in order to work right. So, if we go 
> with the unbalanced balanced modulator method, we need a switch and a 
> few resistors to get the proper DC bias to unbalance to modulator. We 
> could either bypass the sideband selecting filter, or use a different 
> BFO/carrier crystal to get the CW carrier well into the filter bandpass. 
> So we need a crystal, a couple of resistors, a few diodes for crystal 
> switching and a switch of some sort to apply the DC offset to the 
> balanced modulator. This might all add up to $8 if the crystal cost is 
> $5. We'll use the PTT line on the microphone connector for the key 
> input, so we don't need to include the cost of one phone or phono jack.
> 
> So our total is $10. This is for basic CW operation, since we were 
> talking about a cheap rig, that seems appropriate. In order to have fast 
> QSK operation and a few other nice features for CW, we might need a bit 
> more careful engineering, with not many more parts.
> 
> I'm not sure what price range this discussion was centering on for the 
> cheap rig, was it $200 or $500? Lets go with $200. Now suppose you have 
> two rigs to choose from, a SSB only rig for $200 and a SSB/CW rig for 
> $210. Will the $210 SSB/CW rig collect dust on warehouse shelves, while 
> the $200 SSB only rig sells like hotcakes?
> 
> DE N6KB
> 
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