Send TenTec mailing list submissions to
tentec@contesting.com
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
tentec-request@contesting.com
You can reach the person managing the list at
tentec-owner@contesting.com
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of TenTec digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on the cheap -
tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect (Marinus Loewensteijn)
2. Re: New hams (doesn't matter what generation)
(Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
3. Re: TRX-Manager & Orion II (Edward A. Feustel)
4. Re: balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on the cheap
- tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
5. Re: TRX-Manager & Orion II (Don)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:44:53 +0000
From: Marinus Loewensteijn <mjloewensteijn@hotmail.com>
Subject: [TenTec] balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on the
cheap - tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect
To: "tentec@contesting.com" <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <BAY121-W327D54C942C7C6E46EA7D3DDD80@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Geoff
In your drive for equipment on the cheap I like to draw your attention to
the S-Match as promoted by PA0FRI:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~pa0fri/ATU/Smatch/smatcheng.htm
It uses only three components, tunes very easily and can handle both
balanced as unbalanced antennas. Unfortunately you may have to build a
different version for 160m than for 10m because minimum capacitance values
do have an impact.
It should be the ideal beginner's project, in particular if I see prices
asked for "commercial" antenna tuners and which often contribute a
considerable expense towards establishing a station.
By the way - even with the older tentec gear like the Omni-C one does not
need a SWR meter since that is already built in to the rig. (And
"standalone" SWR meter's prices are through the roof for such a simple
piece of equipment)
Enjoy, 73, Marinus, ZL2ML
_________________________________________________________________
Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger?
http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:37:42 +0300
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New hams (doesn't matter what generation)
To: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
Cc: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20080430093742.GA11863@cable.mendelson.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:15:57PM -1000, Ken Brown wrote:
it may as well have the 2.8 kHz for SSB and CW both. Those who have the
initiative to try CW will be able to make plenty of QSOs with a 2.8 kHz
filter.
Actually they can't. I am a special case, I can't copy cw with a second
signal, whether it's cw, voice or music as in the opening of the
the TV show Jericho. I can however, copy 35wpm from signals most
people can't even hear, burried in the noise.
Most of the people I know can't seperate musical notes, sounds or
cw signals. That's why they went into computers.
I'm saying you don't have to add a filter to give the rig CW capability.
You were claiming that the absolute necessity of a narrow filter for a
new ham to operate CW, along with other complexities of CW transmitting
would make the rig too expensive, and it should therefore not have CW
capability.
Sort of. I'm not saying that it should not be able to have CW capability
added, in fact, I would insist on it if I were designing it. What I am
saying is that it should not have it included to both lower the price,
even if it were a few dollars retail, and to add the perception that
it's not being paid for when it is not wanted.
Not many VHF/UHF rigs have been sold with SSB capability either, except
those that also had HF capability. Come to think of it, SSB being so
difficult for a beginner to tune, why not just go FM on the HF bands to
make it even more effortless for these lazy new generation hams to use
HF? We could save a few bucks using a FM discriminator and no BFO. Much
simpler transmit circuitry with FM too. Divide the HF bands up into
channels, as you suggested earlier.
If you have never worked HF FM, IMHO you are missing a treat. When the
band is open, you can talk to people hundreds if not thousands of miles
away, with no noise and clear audio. It's also an amazing way of
introducing
HF to hams whose only radio is a 2m HT.
Got a copy good buddy? I can turn on my foot warmer, and it doesn't
even need to be leenyur, cuz we're ratchet jawin' in FM. Ten Four?
That's just being silly :-)
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:13 -0400
From: "Edward A. Feustel" <efeustel@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <48183E7D.80504@hughes.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Chuck & Vicki Tifft wrote:
<div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Logger
32... a free bee from K4CY..And it is a one of the very best logger
programs at any price.
W6RD
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick M. Mott"
<ab8ah@embarqmail.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:48 PM
Subject: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
The last two days I have been trying to get the Orion II to work
(communicate) with TRX-Manager. It does not work for me. Is there any
other logging program that will work with the Orion II so that the band,
frequency, and mode will flow into the logging program. It must be a
windows
based program that will run on XP. Fred, AB8AH
Fred,
The last time I checked, TRX-Manager did not work with any generation of
Orions.
Consider XMLOG. It works well on the Orion (565) and Ham Radio Deluxe.
A great deal depends on what you use it for. Is this for contest logging
or for casual use?
I personally like XMLOG for casual logging. It is free, but if you like
it, please contribute
to its continued development. (see www.xmlog.com)
HRD is very good for controlling, but the logging function is a bit
limited -- of course you can
export the log to another program.
Ed, N5EI
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:42:01 +0300
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] balanced antenna tuner ( or how to do things on
the cheap - tribute to Geoff's drive for cost effect
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <20080430094201.GB11863@cable.mendelson.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:44:53AM +0000, Marinus Loewensteijn wrote:
In your drive for equipment on the cheap I like to draw your attention
to the S-Match as promoted by PA0FRI:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~pa0fri/ATU/Smatch/smatcheng.htm
Thanks, that's a wonderful idea.
By the way - even with the older tentec gear like the Omni-C one does
not need a SWR meter since that is already built in to the rig. (And
"standalone" SWR meter's prices are through the roof for such a simple
piece of equipment)
That's true, obviously a feature I would want to include. Thanks.
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:42:39 -0400
From: "Don" <w4to@tds.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
To: <efeustel@hughes.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <01e701c8aaa6$88f96d40$4301a8c0@ACER>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Try DX4WIN
Don W4TO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward A. Feustel" <efeustel@hughes.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
Chuck & Vicki Tifft wrote:
<div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Logger
32... a free bee from K4CY..And it is a one of the very best logger
programs at any price.
W6RD
----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick M. Mott"
<ab8ah@embarqmail.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:48 PM
Subject: [TenTec] TRX-Manager & Orion II
The last two days I have been trying to get the Orion II to work
(communicate) with TRX-Manager. It does not work for me. Is there any
other logging program that will work with the Orion II so that the
band,
frequency, and mode will flow into the logging program. It must be a
windows
based program that will run on XP. Fred, AB8AH
Fred,
The last time I checked, TRX-Manager did not work with any generation of
Orions.
Consider XMLOG. It works well on the Orion (565) and Ham Radio Deluxe.
A great deal depends on what you use it for. Is this for contest logging
or for casual use?
I personally like XMLOG for casual logging. It is free, but if you like
it, please contribute
to its continued development. (see www.xmlog.com)
HRD is very good for controlling, but the logging function is a bit
limited -- of course you can
export the log to another program.
Ed, N5EI
_______________________________________________
TenTec mailing list
TenTec@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
------------------------------
_______________________________________________
TenTec mailing list
TenTec@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
End of TenTec Digest, Vol 64, Issue 41
**************************************