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Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, The new Eagel

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, The new Eagel
From: Dave Garner <dgarner@usit.net>
Reply-to: Dave Garner <dgarner@usit.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:44:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
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I was surprised that Ten Tec introduced a new HF radio at the annual hamfest.  
The hamfest was great and is growing each year.  I spoke with the team leader 
for the Eagle project and a beta tester about the Eagle.  The beta tester was 
impressed with the rig and said all of the phone transmissions were given very 
good audio reports, but he could not tell the other ham in the qso what the 
radio was.  That usually brought a quick end to the qso.

The rig looks good and I expect it to perform well.  I have one on my wish 
list. They expect it to be ready to sell in early October as the type 
acceptance paperwork from the FCC has not arrived yet.  It was approved by the 
FCC.

73
Dave
K4YRK


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>   1. Re: The Eagle (Ron Notarius W3WN)
>   2. Re: The Eagle (Mark)
>   3. Re: The Eagle (Duane Calvin)
>   4. Re: looking for Argosy 525 (Mike Hyder -N4NT-)
>   5. Re: The Eagle (Ray Sills)
>   6. Re: The Eagle (Barry N1EU)
>   7. Re: The Eagle (Michael Goins)
>   8. Re: The Eagle (Glenn AE0Q)
>   9. Re: The Eagle (W4ABW@aol.com)
>  10. Re: The Eagle (Glenn AE0Q)
>  11. Re: The Eagle (Glenn AE0Q)
>  12. Re: The Eagle (Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP)
>  13. Re: The Eagle (Jim Vohland)
>  14. Re: The Eagle (Jeff Davis)
>  15. The Eagle (John Graves)
>  16. Re: The Eagle (Barry N1EU)
>  17. The Eagle-S Meter (David and Dianne on Comcast)
>  18. Re: The Eagle (Jim Vohland)
>  19. Re: The Eagle (Pumbaa)
>  20. Re: The Eagle (N4PY2)
>  21. Will there be a QRP Eagle? (Walt Amos)
>  22. Re: The Eagle (Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP)
>  23. Re: The Eagle (Richards)
>  24. Re: The Eagle (Richards)
>  25. Re: The Eagle (John T. Fleming)
>  26. Re: Eagle (kc9cdt@aol.com)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:00:32 -0400
>From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <2621A7ECA69E412587E11DB3B9C6651A@EvoD300V>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Thanks John.  The info is appreciated!
>
>I don't see power output mentioned.  I presume that this is a 100 W rig?
>
>A USB interface... I may well be mistaken, but I do believe that this is the
>first "major manufacturer" rig with that feature (I could be wrong as I am
>not familiar with everything currently offered by Flex or Elecraft).
>Definitely a plus!  And this should prove to be real interesting down the
>road...
>
>I guess the next big question is... when is it anticipated to be on the
>market?  
>
>73, ron w3wn
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>On Behalf Of Henry, John
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:23 AM
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>Subject: [TenTec] The Eagle
>
>I'm not a good marketer, but I will post a bit of info here on it, and
>hope it gets your interest.
>
>Now, onto the Eagle.....(note, all of these specs are subject to
>change, e.g. get better with customer inputs)
>--User Selectable color display (256 colors 16 intensity levels)
>--Ten-Tec's unique crystal ladder filters help eliminate undesirable
>signals from entering the receivers first IF stage
>--10 HF amateur bands plus 6 meters along with general coverage
>receive. (reduced rx in general coverage receive)
>--Dual VFO's with SPLIT mode
>--100 memories,
>--passband tuning,
>--selectable AGC,
>--RIT, built in CTCSS tones for 6 meter FM
>--Ten-Tec's legendary silky-smooth QSK for CW and fast switching digital
>modes.
>--Internal CW Keyer (adjustable
>speed/weight/sidetonelevel/sidetonefrequency)
>--lighted soft touch push buttons with adjustable lighting to track
>the intensity of the display
>--RIT, PBT, BW, AN, NR, ATTN, PRE-AMP, SQL, etc. etc.
>--USB connector for cat/logging/updates
>--modular hw design for quicker/easier fault
>isolation/troubleshooting/repair.
>--Optional built in roughly 10:1 tuner for HF bands
>--Optional built in Hardware based noise blanker with two
>aggressiveness levels, (best I have seen on the market)
>--Optional filters 300Hz, 600Hz, 1.8kHz, 6kHz, 15kHz, (comes standard
>with the 2.4kHz filter)
>--Optional mobile mounting bracket
>
>The architecture of this rig will provide us a vehicle to bring out
>innovations in ham technology quicker and more cost effective.
>
>I understand the lack of wanting to join Yahoo groups, to me, it is
>just one more place to go, and soon, after I have a hundred places to
>go, many of them get missed. So I myself try to stick to watching this
>main contesting.com tentec reflector, the original OMNI-VII yahoo
>group, the original TenTec yahoo group, and the new Eagle yahoo group.
>I've joined many others though, but they won't get much attention
>because I don't have that much time. I am not slighting anyone, I am
>merely trying to ensure I can cover the groups that I can, and in the
>meantime get new products out, enhance existing ones, and bring out
>promised features/products.
>
>Thanks
>John Henry
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:21:36 +0200
>From: Mark <pa5mw@home.nl>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <4C9E4BC0.2030004@home.nl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>  There is a brochure with full specs at the Eagle yahoogroups.
>
>73 Mark
>pa5mw.blogspot.com
>
>
>On 25-9-2010 21:00, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>> Thanks John.  The info is appreciated!
>>
>> I don't see power output mentioned.  I presume that this is a 100 W rig?
>>
>> A USB interface... I may well be mistaken, but I do believe that this is the
>> first "major manufacturer" rig with that feature (I could be wrong as I am
>> not familiar with everything currently offered by Flex or Elecraft).
>> Definitely a plus!  And this should prove to be real interesting down the
>> road...
>>
>> I guess the next big question is... when is it anticipated to be on the
>> market?
>>
>> 73, ron w3wn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Henry, John
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:23 AM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] The Eagle
>>
>> I'm not a good marketer, but I will post a bit of info here on it, and
>> hope it gets your interest.
>>
>> Now, onto the Eagle.....(note, all of these specs are subject to
>> change, e.g. get better with customer inputs)
>> --User Selectable color display (256 colors 16 intensity levels)
>> --Ten-Tec's unique crystal ladder filters help eliminate undesirable
>> signals from entering the receivers first IF stage
>> --10 HF amateur bands plus 6 meters along with general coverage
>> receive. (reduced rx in general coverage receive)
>> --Dual VFO's with SPLIT mode
>> --100 memories,
>> --passband tuning,
>> --selectable AGC,
>> --RIT, built in CTCSS tones for 6 meter FM
>> --Ten-Tec's legendary silky-smooth QSK for CW and fast switching digital
>> modes.
>> --Internal CW Keyer (adjustable
>> speed/weight/sidetonelevel/sidetonefrequency)
>> --lighted soft touch push buttons with adjustable lighting to track
>> the intensity of the display
>> --RIT, PBT, BW, AN, NR, ATTN, PRE-AMP, SQL, etc. etc.
>> --USB connector for cat/logging/updates
>> --modular hw design for quicker/easier fault
>> isolation/troubleshooting/repair.
>> --Optional built in roughly 10:1 tuner for HF bands
>> --Optional built in Hardware based noise blanker with two
>> aggressiveness levels, (best I have seen on the market)
>> --Optional filters 300Hz, 600Hz, 1.8kHz, 6kHz, 15kHz, (comes standard
>> with the 2.4kHz filter)
>> --Optional mobile mounting bracket
>>
>> The architecture of this rig will provide us a vehicle to bring out
>> innovations in ham technology quicker and more cost effective.
>>
>> I understand the lack of wanting to join Yahoo groups, to me, it is
>> just one more place to go, and soon, after I have a hundred places to
>> go, many of them get missed. So I myself try to stick to watching this
>> main contesting.com tentec reflector, the original OMNI-VII yahoo
>> group, the original TenTec yahoo group, and the new Eagle yahoo group.
>> I've joined many others though, but they won't get much attention
>> because I don't have that much time. I am not slighting anyone, I am
>> merely trying to ensure I can cover the groups that I can, and in the
>> meantime get new products out, enhance existing ones, and bring out
>> promised features/products.
>>
>> Thanks
>> John Henry
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:40:55 -0500
>From: "Duane Calvin" <ac5aa1@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>,     "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
>       <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <C031F4A6B9574F9C89364F6642B68D9B@AC5AAMobile>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii"
>
>Heh - I don't think various monotone colors is exactly what the Orion owners
>were asking for!  :-)
>
>       73, Duane
>
>Duane Calvin, AC5AA
>Austin, Texas
>www.ac5aa.com  
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>On Behalf Of Ken Brown
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:12 PM
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>
>
>> --User Selectable color display (256 colors 16 intensity levels)
>>   
>Interesting that this is the first feature listed. Understandable 
>though, when you remember how much people complained about the Orion not 
>having color. With apologies to deaf operators, what the radio sounds 
>like is much more important to me than what it looks like.
>> --Ten-Tec's unique crystal ladder filters help eliminate undesirable
>> signals from entering the receivers first IF stage
>>   
>Are crystal ladder filters really unique to Ten-Tec? A narrow filter at 
>the first possible place in the first IF is certainly not unique to 
>Ten-Tec these days.
>> -
>> --RIT, built in CTCSS tones for 6 meter FM
>I hope that is going to work on 10 meter FM too. There are 10 meter
>repeaters that also require CTCSS.
>
>> --Ten-Tec's legendary silky-smooth QSK for CW and fast switching digital
>modes.
>>   
>Glad to hear that Ten-Tec has not forgotten the importance of great QSK, 
>and that this is one of the things that they have built a reputation 
>for. If they forgot about this, I would forget about Ten-Tec for a new rig.
>
>DE N6KB
>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:12:35 -0400
>From: "Mike Hyder -N4NT-" <Mike_N4NT@charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] looking for Argosy 525
>To: "scott sheppard" <scottsheppard@videotron.ca>,     "Ten-Tec Reflector"
>       <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <35FCD22016AD482E8C2246B245B86688@mikee538bd77eb>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
>
>Price probably wouldn't permit mine.  It is the digital model with the 
>following options:
>
>1 - 4-pole SSB filter replaced with Ten-Tec 8-pole SSB filter.
>2 - 500 Hz crystal CW filter.
>3 - Audio CW filter.
>4 - Noise blanker.
>5 - Amplifier relay board.
>6 - Matching power supply model 225.
>7 - Ten-Tec hand microphone.
>
>I don't think there were other options, but if there were, I'm sure they are 
>in there.  If the 30 meter band was optional, it's in there.  I also have (I 
>think) spare top and bottom covers and probably a spare front panel and some 
>knobs.
>
>Mike Hyder -N4NT-
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "scott sheppard" <scottsheppard@videotron.ca>
>To: "'Mike Hyder -N4NT-'" <Mike_N4NT@charter.net>
>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:05 PM
>Subject: RE: [TenTec] looking for Argosy 525
>
>
>> Either is fine...price permitting of course
>>
>> 73
>> scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Hyder -N4NT- [mailto:Mike_N4NT@charter.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:35 AM
>> To: scottsheppard@videotron.ca
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] looking for Argosy 525
>>
>>
>> Do you seek the analog or digital model Argosy?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "scott sheppard" <scottsheppard@videotron.ca>
>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:49 PM
>> Subject: [TenTec] looking for Argosy 525
>>
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I am looking for an Argosy 525 if you have one for sale.
>>>
>>> kind regards
>>> scott  VA3IED
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:10:18 -0400
>From: Ray Sills <raysills@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <EB1ADCD8-1453-4835-9F49-008AF03645BC@comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>Transmit power level??
>
>73 de Ray
>K2ULR
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:12:38 +0000
>From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTinca+Zs47nhdjTWj3J+AQJuxsxbvNne-kgWzQmb@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> A USB interface... I may well be mistaken, but I do believe that this is the
>> first "major manufacturer" rig with that feature (I could be wrong as I am
>> not familiar with everything currently offered by Flex or Elecraft).
>
>TS-590, which is going to be VERY stiff competition at the same price
>point.  A lack of receive antenna input on the Eagle is disappointing.
>
>(note to N6KB - I believe ladder filters ARE actually unique to TT)
>
>73, Barry N1EU
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:16:00 -0500
>From: Michael Goins <wmgoins@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTikF-H5Od6dSwZGdfHf_w2uMN49p5aQOLFXO11VS@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>5 watt to 100 watts, adjustable, per the brochure.
>
>Mike, k5wmg
>Pipe Creek, Texas
>Green cars, slow boats, big dogs, old trucks, little radios, and summers off
>to write
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Ray Sills <raysills@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Transmit power level??
>>
>> 73 de Ray
>> K2ULR
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:16:28 -0600
>From: Glenn AE0Q <gm5bkc@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTimxYwmrgihm57V9ZzNhefQQ64SNdHPmpdxyHYTV@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>The brochure on Yahoo shows 5w to 100w adjustable..
>
>Glenn AE0Q
>
>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Ray Sills <raysills@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Transmit power level??
>>
>> 73 de Ray
>> K2ULR
>>
>>
>-- 
>"Remember, any tool can be the right tool!"   Red Green
>
>     AE0Q           ex: GM5BKC, ZB2WZ, V31RY, SV0WY, WA0VPK
>ae0q@arrl.net    --SOWP 5558-M, ARRL LM, QCWA LM, OOTC, NCVA--
>http://www.radiotipsandtales.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:27:35 EDT
>From: W4ABW@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <5c6fe.630cb045.39cfc347@aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Houston, the Eagle has landed.
> 
>Al
>W4ABW
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:30:14 -0600
>From: Glenn AE0Q <gm5bkc@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTinujgU+n8rA4tuQATvL+uhrR_-jW_e9q7N=vxfs@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>I've put the Eagle brochure, a pdf file, on my ham radio web site, it opens
>in another window when clicking the link.
>
>http://www.radiotipsandtales.com/
>
>You can save it to your pc by right clicking on the FILE menu (upper left
>corner) after it is on your screen..
>
>Glenn AE0Q
>
>-- 
>"Remember, any tool can be the right tool!"   Red Green
>
>     AE0Q           ex: GM5BKC, ZB2WZ, V31RY, SV0WY, WA0VPK
>ae0q@arrl.net    --SOWP 5558-M, ARRL LM, QCWA LM, OOTC, NCVA--
>http://www.radiotipsandtales.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:31:26 -0600
>From: Glenn AE0Q <gm5bkc@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTimLPoZ8EoFn=8jn=cG8WjGyBAu_oqUuQwPLtY5p@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>Ooops, it's the first link under TIPS on left-hand side of page..
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Glenn AE0Q <gm5bkc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've put the Eagle brochure, a pdf file, on my ham radio web site, it opens
>> in another window when clicking the link.
>>
>> http://www.radiotipsandtales.com/
>>
>> You can save it to your pc by right clicking on the FILE menu (upper left
>> corner) after it is on your screen..
>>
>> Glenn AE0Q
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:03:41 -0500
>From: "Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <001301cb5cfd$840013f0$8c003bd0$@de>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii"
>
>This is the radio that the Omni VII should have been.
>Somebody said it before:  this is exactly an updated OMNI VI.
>
>I think the following sums up the radio:
>
>IMD3 Dynamic Range: 100dB/20kHz, 99dB/2kHz, 300 Hz BW, preamp off
>Blocking Dynamic Range: 141dB/20kHz, 130dB/2kHz, 500 Hz BW, preamp off
>LO Phase Noise: -132dBc/Hz@20kHz, -121dBc/Hz@2kHz
>
>Summary, the radio does not degrade much as the two disturbing stations get
>closer and closer together.
>The RX is very good!  The $4000 radios are a little better but these specs
>are better than most people require.
>If the specs prove true, the performance is quite a bit ABOVE an FT-950, and
>close enough (for most of us) to that of a K3.
>
>Funny:  I did not see an S-Meter of any type; not even any LED bars.  I'm
>sure there is one.  Maybe it's on the back panel - hi
>
>This radio is priced much LESS THAN a K3.
>The entry level K3 with 10w is $1500 in kit form.  With 100w it's $1950 as a
>kit.
>The entry level K3 with 10w, assembled is $1700.  With 100w it's $2200
>assembled.
>Mind you, you'll want a few more options with the K3 as well.
>
>If this had been available, I probably would not have bought my K3.
>
>GOOD LUCK WITH THIS, TEN-TEC!
>
>73
>Rick, NJ0IP
>
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>
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>
>Message: 13
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:13:35 -0400
>From: Jim Vohland <n9vo@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <BAY147-w7AFAD09225738B7707FD681630@phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>If anyone else has already asked, I apologize as I missed it. But is the Eagle 
>made in Tennessee or is it imported??? Just curious.
>                                         
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:16:52 -0400
>From: Jeff Davis <stuckbit@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTi=yqM9m-u3nokTsjy=_FSneNropoHNYbedzJYFJ@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Jim Vohland <n9vo@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If anyone else has already asked, I apologize as I missed it. But is the 
>> Eagle made in Tennessee or is it imported??? Just curious.
>
>Just back home from the fest. The Eagle looks almost identical to the
>discontinued Argo V and is indeed made in East Tennessee.
>
>73 de Jeff, KE9V
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 15
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:33:05 -0400
>From: John Graves <jh.graves@verizon.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4C9E78A1.5050707@verizon.net>
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>I just did an admittedly quick peek at the Eagle Brochure.  It says it 
>is preliminary so I may well be corrected.  The fine print says AM and 
>FM are optional.  It lists all the possible filters but I could not find 
>how many filter slots are in rig. The brochure also says it has CTCSS 
>for  6M FM...  The Din connection for audio and data means that it will 
>work with the USB controller if needed. But I am driving my JUPITER 
>directly from my computer. I will admit to padding the sound in on the rig.
>
>Again the picture was not definitve but it looks like the DC input is a 
>pair of powerpoles but the low amperage DC connections phono plugs? 
>Interesting, but not even close to important.  The rigs operational 
>characteristics in the shack will tell more than the quick read.
>-- 
>John Graves
>WA1JG
>jh.graves@verizon.net
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 16
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:06:22 +0000
>From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID:
>       <AANLkTin+aqgtJ_A+LEfnGyfoDkMsua7tYegf5eYZ0Vcu@mail.gmail.com>
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>I'm just not getting the comparison with the K3 at all.  The Eagle
>looks to be a no bells and whistles basic radio with a single
>excellent receiver.  I see its significance MUCH more as what is going
>to follow on from it, with the technology TT is demonstrating that
>they have newly developed in-house.
>
>As far as the K3 comparison, just look at the two rear panels
>side-by-side:  http://n1eu.com/rearpanels.jpg
>There's a limit to how much TT will cram into that one ACC1 connector
>
>73, Barry N1EU
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 17
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:25:02 -0400
>From: David and Dianne on Comcast <dhhdeh@comcast.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] The Eagle-S Meter
>To: Ten Tec Reflector <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4C9E84CE.1080100@comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>  Hi All,
>
> From the brochure specs:  "S-Meter Reference: S9 
>= 50 uV RMS"
>
>It must be digital in the display but not shown in 
>the brochure photo.
>
>73 de N1LQ-Dave
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 18
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:25:10 -0400
>From: Jim Vohland <n9vo@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <BAY147-w14AB3EB68B38A6F18F8DA981630@phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>Agree wholeheartedly. I can't see it being the rig above the Jupiter. I see it 
>as the entry level beneath the Jupiter. Not feeling the proposed 1800 dollar 
>price range.
>
> 
>> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:06:22 +0000
>> From: barry.n1eu@gmail.com
>> To: tentec@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>> 
>> I'm just not getting the comparison with the K3 at all. The Eagle
>> looks to be a no bells and whistles basic radio with a single
>> excellent receiver. I see its significance MUCH more as what is going
>> to follow on from it, with the technology TT is demonstrating that
>> they have newly developed in-house.
>> 
>> As far as the K3 comparison, just look at the two rear panels
>> side-by-side: http://n1eu.com/rearpanels.jpg
>> There's a limit to how much TT will cram into that one ACC1 connector
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>> _______________________________________________
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>                                         
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 19
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:25:35 -0500
>From: "Pumbaa" <pinkertontommrs@bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <5D8DC6EDB93C47F99C33D40367FC5054@User1PC>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
>
>I want to take a look UNDER the hood of this Eagle.  I still like the way a 
>desktop  PC is constructed.  Make everything possible on plug in units with 
>extender cables optional for those who want to work on their own equipment. 
>Put test voltages and resistance reading back on the schematic diagrams 
>(like in a Century 21 owners manual).  Lets not have 18 or more screws to 
>remove from a cabinet just to open it up to look at it.  Two screws are all 
>that I have to remove to open the top of my Century 21.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>
>
>> I'm just not getting the comparison with the K3 at all.  The Eagle
>> looks to be a no bells and whistles basic radio with a single
>> excellent receiver.  I see its significance MUCH more as what is going
>> to follow on from it, with the technology TT is demonstrating that
>> they have newly developed in-house.
>>
>> As far as the K3 comparison, just look at the two rear panels
>> side-by-side:  http://n1eu.com/rearpanels.jpg
>> There's a limit to how much TT will cram into that one ACC1 connector
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>> 
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 20
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:35:07 -0400
>From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <9BBFE329DC0E4476842B191562DB7624@Carl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
>
>The Eagle has performance specs almost equal to the Omni VII.  It has much 
>better specs than the Jupiter.  And this radio also has a 9 mhz first IF so 
>adding things like LP-Pan will be easy.  Think of this radio as an Omni VII 
>without ethernet.
>
>Carl Moreschi N4PY
>121 Little Bell Drive
>Hays, NC 28635
>www.n4py.com
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Pumbaa" <pinkertontommrs@bellsouth.net>
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>
>
>>I want to take a look UNDER the hood of this Eagle.  I still like the way a
>> desktop  PC is constructed.  Make everything possible on plug in units 
>> with
>> extender cables optional for those who want to work on their own 
>> equipment.
>> Put test voltages and resistance reading back on the schematic diagrams
>> (like in a Century 21 owners manual).  Lets not have 18 or more screws to
>> remove from a cabinet just to open it up to look at it.  Two screws are 
>> all
>> that I have to remove to open the top of my Century 21.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>>
>>
>>> I'm just not getting the comparison with the K3 at all.  The Eagle
>>> looks to be a no bells and whistles basic radio with a single
>>> excellent receiver.  I see its significance MUCH more as what is going
>>> to follow on from it, with the technology TT is demonstrating that
>>> they have newly developed in-house.
>>>
>>> As far as the K3 comparison, just look at the two rear panels
>>> side-by-side:  http://n1eu.com/rearpanels.jpg
>>> There's a limit to how much TT will cram into that one ACC1 connector
>>>
>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 21
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:57:14 -0400
>From: "Walt Amos" <waltk8cv4612amos@att.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] Will there be a QRP Eagle?
>To: "Tentec" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <DE968CD046E546CE80AB53C7D9A639CA@walt81aa220101>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>       reply-type=original
>
>Like the Argonaut II was qrp version of the Delta II ?
>
>An Argonaut VI ?
>
>
>Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 22
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:07:30 -0500
>From: "Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <002a01cb5d0e$cfcee840$6f6cb8c0$@de>
>Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="us-ascii"
>
>Barry, if you don't purchase any options for the K3, then it is a fair
>comparison.
>Granted, the K3 has a few more knobs.  Some not used and others rarely used.
>
>I predict performance will be just slightly better than an Omni VI with an
>Inrad front-end filter.
>
>By leaving off AM, FM, and noise limiter, you do not need a wide filter on
>the front.
>By coming straingt into the 9MHZ 2.4 kHz or narrower filter, you can get
>great performance at low cost.
>You also lose a bit of performance on the general coverage RX.  So what!
>
>Outstanding product and exactly what several of us were urging Ten-Tec to
>build about 8 years ago when the OM7 was on the design board.
>
>This radio will give Ten-Tec a boost in market share, and rightly so.
>Finally someone is just focusing on the basics (besides elecraft of course)
>and building a darn good transceiver at a fair price.
>
>73
>Rick
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:06 PM
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>
>I'm just not getting the comparison with the K3 at all.  The Eagle
>looks to be a no bells and whistles basic radio with a single
>excellent receiver.  I see its significance MUCH more as what is going
>to follow on from it, with the technology TT is demonstrating that
>they have newly developed in-house.
>
>As far as the K3 comparison, just look at the two rear panels
>side-by-side:  http://n1eu.com/rearpanels.jpg
>There's a limit to how much TT will cram into that one ACC1 connector
>
>73, Barry N1EU
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 23
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:44:00 -0400
>From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net,       Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>       <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4C9E9750.4040407@ameritech.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>Interesting question, Ken.   I think it is a matter of careful marketing
>semantics.
>
>       Unique crystal ladder filters... Hmmm...   what is unique?
>
>A.     Is it the use of crystal filters that is unique?
>- OR -
>B.      Or are the TenTec crystal filters somehow unique?
>
>The latter interpretation saves the day, I think.
>
>==================================== JHR =====================
>
>On 9/25/2010 14:12, Ken Brown wrote:
>> Are crystal ladder filters really unique to Ten-Tec? A narrow filter at
>> the first possible place in the first IF is certainly not unique to
>> Ten-Tec these days.
>
>  > _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 24
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:19:57 -0400
>From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4C9E9FBD.7040409@ameritech.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>
>
>On 9/25/2010 20:07, Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP wrote:
>> Barry, if you don't purchase any options for the K3, then it is a fair
>> comparison.
>
>
>               Are we being careful to compare apples to apples?
>               When comparing the K-32 any other unit, I always make
>               sure that I am comparing the K-3 factory build price
>               with the other radio, because they are, then, both
>               all manufactured for you.  I don't consider the kit price of
>               the K-3 in these cases.  I hope that's not too silly?
>
>
>> By leaving off AM, FM, and noise limiter, you do not need a wide
>
>
>               I'm not getting the optional AM and optional FM thing
>               here.  I don't see anything listed under the "OPTIONS"
>               section of the brochure.   I presume that one must
>               pay extra to have the rig do AM, right?
>
>               
>> You also lose a bit of performance on the general coverage RX.
>
>
>               Why is that?   Why would it play better in the ham
>               bands, and not on the SW bands or in between?
>               Or, are they just saying it could have somewhat
>               degraded performance, just to be on the safe side,
>               since we are not really going to rate or at decide
>               to buy the radio for that reason, anyway.  I don't
>               see why it should receive worse on one frequency
>               then another just a few megahertz either side of
>               a particular ham band.  Could someone enlighten
>               me on this?
>
>
>SIDEBAR:  am I the only one thinking that Ten-Tec will score a coup, a 
>victory of sorts, by beating Kenwood to market with a rig in this 
>price/performance category?  Kenwood announced its new radio several 
>months ago, but I don't believe it is available yet.  It would be a real 
>deal if Ten-Tec could leapfrog Kenwood in the race to produce a good 
>midpriced level radio.
>
>Happy Trails.
>
>====================  James  /  K8JHR ===================
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 25
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:25:25 -0400
>From: "John T. Fleming" <john@w3gqj.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <016601cb5d19$b2e44120$18acc360$@w3gqj.net>
>
>Rick,
>
>If you look close at the color brochure, you can see a digital S meter to
>the right of the second frequency and below the main frequency.
>
>73,
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>On Behalf Of Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP
>Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:04 PM
>To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>
>This is the radio that the Omni VII should have been.
>Somebody said it before:  this is exactly an updated OMNI VI.
>
>I think the following sums up the radio:
>
>IMD3 Dynamic Range: 100dB/20kHz, 99dB/2kHz, 300 Hz BW, preamp off
>Blocking Dynamic Range: 141dB/20kHz, 130dB/2kHz, 500 Hz BW, preamp off
>LO Phase Noise: -132dBc/Hz@20kHz, -121dBc/Hz@2kHz
>
>Summary, the radio does not degrade much as the two disturbing stations get
>closer and closer together.
>The RX is very good!  The $4000 radios are a little better but these specs
>are better than most people require.
>If the specs prove true, the performance is quite a bit ABOVE an FT-950, and
>close enough (for most of us) to that of a K3.
>
>Funny:  I did not see an S-Meter of any type; not even any LED bars.  I'm
>sure there is one.  Maybe it's on the back panel - hi
>
>This radio is priced much LESS THAN a K3.
>The entry level K3 with 10w is $1500 in kit form.  With 100w it's $1950 as a
>kit.
>The entry level K3 with 10w, assembled is $1700.  With 100w it's $2200
>assembled.
>Mind you, you'll want a few more options with the K3 as well.
>
>If this had been available, I probably would not have bought my K3.
>
>GOOD LUCK WITH THIS, TEN-TEC!
>
>73
>Rick, NJ0IP
>
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>
>Message: 26
>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:31:36 -0400
>From: kc9cdt@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <8CD2B31B1F3435F-1428-AAF1@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>Took me 10 minutes t be approved..got right in to rig info,
>Lee, KC9CDT
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Goins <wmgoins@gmail.com>
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Fri, Sep 24, 2010 11:43 pm
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle
>
>
>Took me maybe ten minutes to join and be approved.
>
>Mike, k5wmg
>Pipe Creek, Texas
>Green cars, slow boats, big dogs, old trucks, little radios, and 
>summers off
>to write
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:30 PM, John Molenda 
><cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  It's a pain to just log in there I do not like the Yahoo groups 
>either
>> , can some one grab the info and bring it here ?  thanks John Molenda
>>
>> On 9/24/2010 11:28 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>> > Thanks, but no thanks.
>> >
>> > I don't want to try and join yet ANOTHER yahoo group, and then wait 
>who
>> > knows how long for approval, just to glance at a brochure.
>> >
>> > Too many hoops to jump through.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:
>> tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Jay Lyle
>> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:18 PM
>> > To: tentec@contesting.com
>> > Subject: [TenTec] Eagle
>> >
>> > Bill says:I think it is a bird not a rig.  IE: Live Eagle at the 
>Ten-Tec
>> > Hamfest on
>> > Friday the first day of the event......
>> >
>> > ------------------The birt is part of the marketing.  It's actually 
>a
>> nice
>> > small rig with a USB port on the back.  I put the brochure on
>> > here:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TenTec_Eagle/
>> > _______________________________________________
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