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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers
From: Paul Gates <kd3jf@hotmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:37:04 -0400
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AMEN to your comments. I have the TenTec580 which is the Delta. I like it and 
do not have a problem with noise in my very noisey neighborhood. I am in my 
82nd year and will if I could take it to my grave! LOL!

Paul Gates KD3JF

> From: Rick@DJ0IP.de
> To: wb5jnc@centurytel.net; tentec@contesting.com
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 18:12:16 +0200
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers
> 
> BOTH
> 
> Actually the older analog Ten-Tecs were about as good as 12v bipolar rigs
> get.
> It is some of the newer rigs that are a disaster and as I recall, NONE of
> the disasters are Ten-Tec rigs.
> So, it doesn't affect our transmitters so much, but it affects the bands we
> have to work with when the other rigs are so bad.
> 
> All of the information for understanding this thread is shown clearly in the
> many slides of Rob Sherwood's various presentations.
> 
> 73
> Rick, DJ0IP
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Al Gulseth
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:40 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Cc: Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers
> 
> Just for curiosity, how do the older (analog signal generation) Ten-Tecs
> (Triton/540/544, Omni-A/B/C/D, Corsairs etc.) compare on the transmit side
> in this regard? Is this a solid state/broadband PA vs.. tuned PA issue or is
> it a synthesizer vs. PTO/VFO/XTAL signal generation issue (or maybe both)?
> 
> 73, Al
> 
> On Mon May 14 2012 10:00:29 am Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> > Jim, based on that (which I fully believe), our only recourse is to 
> > START DEMANDING CLEANER TRANSMITTERS.
> >
> > Just as we focused on DR3 in the past, we need to focus on cleaner 
> > transmit IMD in the future.
> >
> > I said earlier that none are as clean as the old KWM-2. That was a 
> > major understatement.
> > I need to add that several of the newer models are very FILTHY.
> > The picture we are accustomed to with each successive odd harmic's 
> > distortion falling rapidly off is simply not applicable to many of 
> > today's transmitters.  It is outrageous that the manufacturers do not 
> > note this and fix it themselves.
> >
> > We need to be able to post some pictures of this stuff so that 
> > everyone will realize just how serious the problem is.
> >
> > 73
> > Rick, DJ0IP
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Brown
> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 4:13 PM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Top receivers
> >
> > On 5/14/2012 6:33 AM, kc9cdt@aol.com wrote:
> > > FCC is not doing the job...no surprise...all they want to do these 
> > > days is
> >
> > sell frequency's.
> > Many of us are old enough to remember when the FCC had field offices, 
> > monitoring stations, and field engineers who actually came out and 
> > inspected stations.  Broadcasters were inspected on a routine basis, 
> > and hams were inspected when monitoring or complaints caused FCC 
> > engineers to suspect there might be a violation.
> >
> > All that changed with deregulation and "small government" that "got 
> > the government off our backs."  There are far fewer engineers paying 
> > any attention at all to these issues, and all the Commissioners are
> lawyers.
> > Technical education?  If you doubt any of this, read their biographies.
> >
> > The FCC CANNOT do any enforcement -- it has no money to do it, thanks 
> > to "small government." Now, SOME of that field inspection was "busy work,"
> > but much of it was not.  There are, for example, AM broadcast stations 
> > seriously violating the terms of their licenses by running 
> > omnidirectional antennas when the license requires a directional 
> > antenna, and/or running more power than their license permits, and the 
> > ham bands are full of RF trash generated by consumer equipment that 
> > violates FCC Rules, even Rules weakened by lobbyists for the spectrum
> polluters.
> >
> > Clean equipment, clean spectrum, compliance with FCC Rules is simply 
> > not a priority.  FCC priorities are focused on the internet, 
> > telecommunications, telephony, commercial uses of the spectrum, and 
> > cow-towing to so-called Christians who care more about wardrobe 
> > malfunctions than whether poor children have food to eat.
> >
> > 73, Jim Brown K9YC
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