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Re: [TenTec] Strange FD RFI

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Strange FD RFI
From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: k9yc@arrl.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:14:11 -0700
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On 6/26/2012 6:30 AM, Frederick Mott wrote:
I think that a good line filter such as the Corcom EMI F3482 / F3482X just
might be the solution.

The very popular (and very nice) Honda EU2000i generator puts out some hash that I've mostly heard on 20M and 15M. It may be on other bands, but we always start out on those bands and it gets fixed before we get to 40 or 80 later.

Conventional AC line filters do NOT make a dent in this RFI because it is conducted out of the generator as a common mode signal on the AC power line. There IS an easy solution though -- simply add a multi-turn ferrite choke right at the generator by winding turns of the AC cable through several #43 or #31 toroids, or a suitably sized clamp-on of the same material. Use the guidelines in my Choke Cookbook -- http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf -- for coax that is about the same size as the AC cable you're winding through the toroids.

Remember that the AVERAGE current draw for a 100W station with computer and small lamp is typically no more than 4-5A, so while you certainly DO want big cable (#12 or larger) for the long run between the generator and the station, it's perfectly OK to use a short length of #14 (or even #16) AC cable to wind the choke. This makes it easier to fit enough turns into the ferrite core(s).

BTW -- while the specs for good AC line filters like Corcom and Delta SAY that they filter common mode, they really don't, because what THEY call common mode is not what WE call common mode. When THEY talk about common mode noise they're talking about noise between neutral and green, or between the combination of phase/neutral and green. When WE talk about common mode, we're talking about current that is in phase on all three conductors, and no voltage between conductors. So their specs are lying, they're simply talking about something entirely different.

73, Jim Brown K9YC

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