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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty
From: d.e.warnick@comcast.net
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:22:59 +0000 (UTC)
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Time for one of my favorite rants. 

I miss the novice bands. It's not about CW vs. Phone. It's about giving new 
hams a set of frequencies with reduced privileges where new hams and 
experienced hams could be sure to connect. I learned a lot from the old timers 
on those novice bands with reduced power, before I was allowed to move on to 
everywhere. Many of us earned our stripes there and learned to listen and 
operate correctly. 

I wish we could go back to an entry level license. It could be SSB if you like, 
but limit power and frequency availibility for a mandatory year. Say 100 watts 
on the old novice CW frequencies and a matching set of phone frequencies on 80, 
40 & 15. A place for new guys to get their feet wet. Yes, there would have to 
be tolerance and Elmering by those of us who are now old timers. 

We've dummied down our tests and then opened up the whole world to those who 
are not ready for that. It's not the fault of the new guy who hasn't learned. 
The FCC took away the training ground 

Just my rant. That's OK, I'm 69 and will go away in time 

Thanks for the bandwidth . 

Oh, yes, Bob. I loved the story. You always have great input and info. Maybe 
there is something to having been at it a long time. And I am happy with the 
audio on my Omni VII & Orion II & still learning from others 

73 

Dave 

WA3F 



----- Original Message -----


From: "Reed Krenn" <reed.krenn@gmail.com> 
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:49:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty 

I think I'll go buy a new computer so my emails will look better..... 

Reed / WW3A 


On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote: 

> Yes, "Joe Ham" is alive and well and reproducing at a faster rate than we 
> are! 
> (hi) 
> 
> Lovely story, Bob! 
> 
> Cheers! 
> Rick, DJ0IP 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
> McGraw 
> - K4TAX 
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:01 AM 
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment 
> Subject: [TenTec] Brand Loyalty 
> 
> Recently a close friend and one that is on the frequency where myself and 
> several others settle to "rag chew" on a very regular or daily basis stated 
> that he may sell the radio he had been using as he wasn't satisfied with 
> the 
> 
> audio.  He was using his Omni VII and a 705 mike and dipole antenna.   One 
> day he announced to the group that he had sold his Omni VII and had 
> purchased a brand XX/model radio.  {The actual brand & model is not 
> important here.} Over the next two weeks he used the new radio on the air. 
> The "rag chew" group made clear and definitive statements that the new 
> brand 
> XX radio had much better audio than the Omni VII.  He "settled" on the 
> suggested adjustments that were offered for that model and continued daily 
> to join in the "rag chew" sessions.  Frequently he was honored with the 
> comment "that new radio sure sounds better than the Omni VII" type reports. 
> 
> After two weeks, he couldn't stand the pressure and announced to the group 
> "well fellows you are all full of crap, as I've been using the same Omni 
> VII, same mike and same antenna for the past two weeks.   There has been 
> and 
> 
> is no new radio".  Many of the fellows were totally embarrassed and grossly 
> had proverbial "egg on their faces" as they had boldly and lavishly 
> complemented  the "alleged new radio" and its audio quality. 
> 
> Frankly, being in on the joke from the start and hearing these exchanges, 
> when he disclosed the prank,  I laughed until I thought my trousers would 
> need laundry service. 
> 
> I suppose this goes to somewhat prove that folks give reports seemingly 
> based on radio model and brand and not of actual and accurate signal 
> evaluation.  In other words, they aren't capable of hearing and reporting 
> any real or significant difference, although they claim to hear dramatic 
> improvements when indeed there were none. 
> 
> The general word is "HYPE" that feeds one's ego. 
> 
> 73 
> Bob, K4TAX 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richards" <jrichards@k8jhr.com> 
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com> 
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 5:57 PM 
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Speech Processor 
> 
> 
> > Personally, Gary, after reading your comments over the past couple of 
> > years, and reviewing your setup procedure, I am confident you have 
> managed 
> 
> > to ring the most out of the rig and processor, pushing it to the max, 
> > while maintaining a narrow, clean, and intelligible signal. 
> > 
> 
> 
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