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Re: [TenTec] Power supply types

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Power supply types
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:19:35 -1000
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They are both commonly available and they can both be used to power typical HF transceivers. I think it is a reasonable comparison to make.

Here is another question: What kind of power supply did you first see reviews in QST in which the subject of RF noise generation was even mentioned?

Yes, switched mode power supplies CAN be made that do not generate (and radiate) RF noise. And switched mode power supplies are generally more energy efficient.:

How about we state the question this way:

Suppose you're on vacation and you brought your mobile rig along with you, which runs on 12 VDC. You planned on only operating from your vehicle, so you did not bring a power supply for use from 120 VAC. You are offered an opportunity to stay for free in a nice vacation rental cabin for a week. The cabin has all the conveniences, including grid power. There are tall trees and you have a spool of skinny copper wire and an antenna tuner in your vehicle. You think it will be a great opportunity to get on the air from a remote location, with hopefully not a lot of RF noise. Before you head up into the mountains to the go to the cabin you see a store which sells two kinds of power supplies that have the right voltage and current rating to power your rig. One of the power supplies is very lightweight and the label say it is super efficient and uses switching mode technology. The other power supply is heavier, and you can see it has a laminated iron core transformer and a big electrolytic capacitor in it. The prices of the two power supplies are identical and they both appear to be well constructed. You cannot find any other data about these power supplies. The drive to the cabin is long, and you don't intend to drive back to town until you have finished your stay at the cabin. If you buy both power supplies, you won't have enough money left to buy the wrist rocket slingshot you intend to use to send the skinny wire up into the tall trees.

Which power supply would you buy?

DE N6KB

On 1/20/2014 3:41 PM, Kim Elmore wrote:
This is an apples vs pecans question.

Better-stated questions:

What's the probability that a properly-designed and engineered linear power supply will radiate RF noise of sufficient amplitude to be bothersome?

What's the probability that a properly-designed and engineered switching power supply will radiate RF noise of sufficient amplitude to be bothersome?

Answer: unknown. likely small but equal.

Kim N5OP


On 1/20/2014 7:13 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
What is the probability that a transformer/rectifier/capacitor filter/linear regulated power supply will generate and radiate (through AC power input or DC power output leads) RF noise of sufficient amplitude to be bothersome? That probability may not be zero.

What is that probability that a switched mode regulated power supply will be not "properly engineered" and generate and radiate RF noise of sufficient amplitude to be bothersome?

How do those two probabilities compare?


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